Electric Cooker Installation

lee1101

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Hi all

This is probably not the best place to be asking this question but worth a go!

At the moment we have a gas hob and dual double oven. We are looking to replace this with a dual fuel double oven and hob, electric oven and gas hob.

I know that this needs to be hard wired by an electrician but Id like an idea of what this is likely to cost. Next to our existing oven there is a switch like this

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The cooker switch controls a plug socket behind where the oven is. Will this be a quick and cheap job?

Sorry about the vagueness!

Thanks:confused
 
Prepare for some major death in the face if you do it yourself, I got a mate to do mine for nowt but he was mumbling some crap about 45 quid an hour, Shocking. :eek: (pun intended) :D
 
There are two wires that will go into the back of your new cooker. Even a trained monkey could connect them. Unscrew the wires from old cooker, then connect to the new one.

Unfortunately the advent of the modern internet has led to many electricians leading people on forums to think their job is rocket science and even the simplest of jobs are now given to them.
 
Em3bbs said:
There are two wires that will go into the back of your new cooker. Even a trained monkey could connect them. Unscrew the wires from old cooker, then connect to the new one.

Unfortunately the advent of the modern internet has led to many electricians leading people on forums to think their job is rocket science and even the simplest of jobs are now given to them.
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The old oven was gas only so there are no wires, only a plug socket which is controlled by the cooker switch in the picture above
 
What's the maximum draw in watts of the new double oven?
Any reason why it needs hardwiring and not just fitting with a 13amp plug?
 
ron3003 said:
What's the maximum draw in watts of the new double oven?
Any reason why it needs hardwiring and not just fitting with a 13amp plug?
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Cant find the info anywhere on the maximum draw! Its this one
http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Dual-Fuel-Cookers/buy-DELONGHI-DC-60DF-Dual-Fuel-Cooker/664855

The plug socket needs changing over to a cooker outlet plate, SWITCH IT OFF FIRST.

Was previously turned into a socket for the Gas ignition i suspect

http://www.mkelectric.com/en-gb/Prod.../K5045WHI.aspx

Then conect to cooker, Its not difficult.
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Wow that seems too easy! :)
 
Em3bbs said:
There are two wires that will go into the back of your new cooker. Even a trained monkey could connect them. Unscrew the wires from old cooker, then connect to the new one.

Unfortunately the advent of the modern internet has led to many electricians leading people on forums to think their job is rocket science and even the simplest of jobs are now given to them.
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Unfortunately it's advice like this that has lead people like me to advise if in doubt call an electrician.

Two wires? what on earth are you on about? It will be one cable which has three wires L - N - E

Littledave is more than likely correct in this case. But if you are in doubt call an electrician if you use a small local company shouldn't cost much more than the call out cost (30min job max)
 
Ours (double oven gas hob) was wired in with 6mm t+e, a (trusted) electrician came to re-wire and said it was over kill and connected a flex and a plug to it and plugged it into a socket. From what he said you only need to cable it in with 6mm t+e if you are also running an electric hob with it, and then to be fair you will only ever draw to much current for a standard flex if you were running everything at once i.e sunday lunch.
 
ZG002 said:
Unfortunately it's advice like this that has lead people like me to advise if in doubt call an electrician.

Two wires? what on earth are you on about? It will be one cable which has three wires L - N - E
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Hook, line and sinker.
 
I can see you are going to fit in around here. Lets back peddle as quickly as I can because I made myself look silly.

You carry on though mate.
 
6mm Twin & Earth is generally what is used for cooker supplies, but this depends on several factors, length of the run and of course the electrical loading of the cooker.

The cooker should have a label fixed displaying the load, 6mm can generally handle up to 40 amps (9.2kW) at 230V

Changing over to a flex and plug restricts it to 13 amp with the correct flex, which is ok for the cheaper/smaller cookers but anything substantial should have a cooker outlet. It can be a paing trying to pull out a hot oven halfway through cooking to change the fuse in the plug.
 
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littledave said:
6mm Twin & Earth is generally what is used for cooker supplies, but this depends on several factors, length of the run and of course the electrical loading of the cooker.

The cooker should have a label fixed displaying the load, 6mm can generally handle up to 40 amps (9.2kW) at 230V

Changing over to a flex and plug restricts it to 13 amp with the correct flex, which is ok for the cheaper/smaller cookers but anything substantial should have a cooker outlet. It can be a paing trying to pull out a hot oven halfway through cooking to change the fuse in the plug.
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Would you suggest having a bash at what you mentioned earlier about changing the plate?
 
If your going to change the plate then you would need to use the correct size cable to connect to the cooker, this is relevent to the fuse protecting the cooker circuit, which like i said is generally 6mm.

If you can use a screwdriver and are even slightly clued up it shouldnt be a problem
 
people on this forum need to man up :D

so far this year i fixed my stand alone dryer when the belt snapped, fixed my main oven when the element needed replacing :D

i dont know whats happened to modern men... all the makeup most of you wear must have done something to your brains.

i remember when men were men ad odd jobs around the house were a doddle, it wouldnt suprise me if half the forum doesnt even own a toolbox.

imo theres 2 things in life a man must have a decent suit and a decent set of tools
 
arknor said:
people on this forum need to man up :D

so far this year i fixed my stand alone dryer when the belt snapped, fixed my main oven when the element needed replacing :D

i dont know whats happened to modern men... all the makeup most of you wear must have done something to your brains.

i remember when men were men ad odd jobs around the house were a doddle, it wouldnt suprise me if half the forum doesnt even own a toolbox.

imo theres 2 things in life a man must have a decent suit and a decent set of tools
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Its hardly manning up! It will be a brand new oven which I would like not to go pop! :) Im more than happy to fix faulty things but not to cause a fault through carelessness! :)

In fact Im quite obsessessed with dismantling things :(
 
I really hope for your sake their (Delonghi) oven is better than their site, no useful info whatsoever on there and Google hasn't got much either, they seem to have the web presence of a no-name dodgy brand, no tech manuals for download etc.


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:( still not found any infoz...

My guess would be it will either come with a plug on the flex and you can just plug into your existing setup or bare flex that would indicate it needs a cooker point because its higher powered.

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For getting a spark in - if done properly would need Paperwork and part p notified cos its an alteration in a special location (kitchen) so than means testing the whole circuit and RCD protection if that circuit isn't already RCD protected, could get more expensive than you would first think.
 
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