Electric Scooters could soon be legal...

jpaul · 11 May 2020 at 11:39

some interesting scooter braking comparisons here from 15mph 165lb rider. ~10ft upwards. ... 16ft .....

https://electric-scooter.guide/comparisons/electric-scooter-performance-tests/

difference down to tyres ? or is there a big range of braking performance from the mechanicals (disk size/pads/hydaulics)...
maybe rear brake if available can do more on a scooter ...vs a bike since weight more, over, rear wheel.

but you don't get that braking range on a bicycle hydraulic or not, I'd say, from my (cantilever vs centre) bikes too
someone elses opinion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjmIBU-AgmQ
(Hadn't realised at 15mph a bike will outbrake a car it seems, just in dry?)

Bug One · 11 May 2020 at 11:59

Solid tyres vs air tyres. Huge difference in grip. Also, disk brakes vs electronic brakes.

A 7kg scooter will perform very different to a 40kg scooter in ever way.

arknor · 11 May 2020 at 12:15

lol look one of those scooters on that list

dolly, 15mph speed test, 40ft brake test

is that mechanical breaking from the motor or what lol...

seems its a 429usd scooter as well *mind blown*

Bug One · 11 May 2020 at 12:32

https://www.amazon.com/Glion-Foldable-Lightweight-Electric-Scooter/dp/B018KTMOPG

Looks like it's got no brake on the front wheel. Rear drive - so must be rear electronic / stomp brake only. Lightweight and compact comes with it's drawbacks.

SexyGreyFox · 11 May 2020 at 14:21

arknor said:
hope it didn't crush your will to cycle.

In the last 7 years I've had 4 dislocated shoulders (two each side), fractured elbow, about 7 ribs broke and 3 lost teeth.
I get straight back on.

Nasher · 11 May 2020 at 14:50

Sounds like you need 2 extra wheels.

SexyGreyFox · 11 May 2020 at 23:10

Nasher said:
Sounds like you need 2 extra wheels.

and on two occasions at Christmas different relatives have bought me stabilizers.

Dis86 · 11 May 2020 at 23:59

SexyGreyFox said:
In the last 7 years I've had 4 dislocated shoulders (two each side), fractured elbow, about 7 ribs broke and 3 lost teeth.
I get straight back on.

Evolution is trying to tell you something.

SexyGreyFox · 12 May 2020 at 08:31

Dis86 said:
Evolution is trying to tell you something.

This last 3 years I have slowed right down.

jpaul · 12 May 2020 at 17:59

so watching a few videos, most seem to just have one brake, mostly on non-driven wheel ...

xiamo 365 pro- brake on rear, drive on front , which, doesn't match bike or sports car rwd for best handling... and,
with brake, just on rear, would not be real efficient with forward weight transfer under braking, either,
maybe with virtually no castor angle(wheels under steering) a brake at fron would be unstable / squirmy.

b0rn2sk8 · 12 May 2020 at 19:24

The driven wheel has regenerative breaking so both wheels do brake, the weight distribution is also very good over the front and rear wheels. Most of your weight is already over the rear wheel because of the riding position, just think how much of your weight goes through your heals and where they are on the scooter.

They stop just as quickly as a bike as shown in a video above but both tend to be limited by the tyres rather than the brakes.

Nasher · 13 May 2020 at 10:12

All the weight shifts to the front as you brake though. It wont take a lot to unbalance it and tip you over the handlebars.

Dis86 · 13 May 2020 at 10:15

Nasher said:
All the weight shifts to the front as you brake though. It wont take a lot to unbalance it and tip you over the handlebars.

It doesn't shift to the front. It shifts forwards. There's a key difference.

jpaul · 13 May 2020 at 21:21

Couldn't find any good videos (slaloms?) on escooter handling or the merits of having a single brake at front and rear wheels being driven (like a car)

but the fluidride ride ones appeal to me , since they have this car setup
https://fluidfreeride.com/products/...ic-scooter-for-commute?variant=19733559902277
let alone their 2 wheel drive + 2 brake machines~~monsters~~

hadn't realised how many there are on san fran streets though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfP_GvnvX4
can't see any bicycles, just these .... is everyone unfit ??

GhostWKD · 13 May 2020 at 21:59

jpaul said:
hadn't realised how many there are on san fran streets though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfP_GvnvX4
can't see any bicycles, just these .... is everyone unfit ??

Skipped to 7:37 immediately and saw just bicycles

but going by the description it's a group ride out for electric powered stuff

SexyGreyFox · 13 May 2020 at 22:19

jpaul said:
hadn't realised how many there are on san fran streets though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfP_GvnvX4
can't see any bicycles, just these .... is everyone unfit ??

In Benidorm electric scooters massively outnumber mobility scooters now.

Trifid · 14 May 2020 at 07:33

jpaul said:
Couldn't find any good videos (slaloms?) on escooter handling or the merits of having a single brake at front and rear wheels being driven (like a car)

but the fluidride ride ones appeal to me , since they have this car setup
https://fluidfreeride.com/products/...ic-scooter-for-commute?variant=19733559902277
let alone their 2 wheel drive + 2 brake machines~~monsters~~

hadn't realised how many there are on san fran streets though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfP_GvnvX4
can't see any bicycles, just these .... is everyone unfit ??

I can't help but look at the fools traveling slower in cars, creating more pollution and needing to find somewhere to park at the other end. Why wouldn't you use a escooter? Especially with such beautiful weather.

Bug One · 14 May 2020 at 08:13

jpaul said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfP_GvnvX4
can't see any bicycles, just these .... is everyone unfit ??

The guy in this video is riding like a complete tool. All over the road, in and out of pedestrian crossings, through red lights, speeding.

This is the kind of behaviour that gets e scooters banned, and pedestrians hurt.

Dis86 · 14 May 2020 at 08:50

Bug One said:
The guy in this video is riding like a complete tool. All over the road, in and out of pedestrian crossings, through red lights, speeding.

This is the kind of behaviour that gets e scooters banned, and pedestrians hurt.

Yup. Guys a total idiot. Even his responses to comments show that. Things like he like a going fast because it makes the slower scooter users jealous. What a dong.

SexyGreyFox · 14 May 2020 at 10:05

jpaul said:
hadn't realised how many there are on san fran streets though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfP_GvnvX4
can't see any bicycles, just these .... is everyone unfit ??

I've never in 45 years of driving ever moaned about a cyclist but if I ever came across those bunch of locusts I'd be in road rage hell.
I must admit that scooter is very impressive but with all my Googling I can't find a price for it, that model isn't even on their site.