Ender's Game

Agreed ; I don't think Card is all that great a writer. It's as if he had an epiphany when he penned Ender's Game, but the majority of what he has written since pales in comparison.

Personally, I enjoy the work of Peter Hamilton, Alastair Reynolds and Iain Banks much more ( the latter being the most accomplished of the three in my opinion ).
 
Have they changed the name of the aliens in this? It's hard to take anything seriously with the name they were given in the books..
'Are you an orphan?'
'Yes. My parents both died in the bugger wars.'
'So they were...'
'Don't say it!'

It's juvenile I know. :o

EDIT: On the book. I think it's a bit like Catch 22. Provocative at the time but the world is a more cynical place now that the taboo has been broken and it doesn't retain the impact it once had.
 
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Pumpkinstew said:
Have they changed the name of the aliens in this? It's hard to take anything seriously with the name they were given in the books..
'Are you an orphan?'
'Yes. My parents both died in the bugger wars.'
'So they were...'
'Don't say it!'

It's juvenile I know. :o

EDIT: On the book. I think it's a bit like Catch 22. Provocative at the time but the world is a more cynical place now that the taboo has been broken and it doesn't retain the impact it once had.
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IIRC Card has said that now he knows the other meaning of the word, he wished he'd called them something else. So I expect that he will. "Bugs" is probably out because of Starship Troopers though.
 
Will be interesting if this does well and they make Speaker For the Dead - I always thought that was an amazing book, but totally different to Ender's Game.
 
Meridian said:
IIRC Card has said that now he knows the other meaning of the word, he wished he'd called them something else. So I expect that he will. "Bugs" is probably out because of Starship Troopers though.
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I can believe that - isn't OSC a massive homo-hater? Weren't the aliens officially called "Formics" as they were ant-like?
 
scorza said:
I can believe that - isn't OSC a massive homo-hater? Weren't the aliens officially called "Formics" as they were ant-like?
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Formics is the official name in the book, buggers was the pejorative used by the characters because of their insectile appearance. The gay lobby seem to be taking offence over nothing...it's not as if the term hasn't been used for decades and decades to refer to misbehaving kids....
 
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Castiel said:
Formics is the official name in the book, buggers was the pejorative used by the characters because of their insectile appearance. The gay lobby seem to be taking offence over nothing...it's not as if the term hasn't been used for decades and decades to refer to misbehaving kids....
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Er - the use of the word "bugger" is not what the "gay lobby" (where is that??) are complaining about. They are complaining about several anti-gay comments made by Card in RL.
 
Meridian said:
Er - the use of the word "bugger" is not what the "gay lobby" (where is that??) are complaining about. They are complaining about several anti-gay comments made by Card in RL.
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I know this, mainly in reference to his stand on Gay Marriage, and they are associating the terminology in Enders Game as being indicative of his homophobia in the calls to boycott the movie, more than one activist making the claim that the term 'bugger' is homophobic as it refers to homosexual men....my Nan used to call me a little bugger when I was naughty as a kid...I doubt she was calling me a homosexual though...

The term 'gay lobby' is simply a term I used to refer to several gay activist groups and individuals who have either said or blogged about the 'bugger' reference in his books and called for the boycott.
 
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Fair enough. But which shows little more than that every group contains idiots. It does not address the fact that Card has made anti-gay comments.
 
I personally can't wait to see this, it looks absolutely AWESOME, and right up my street. massive spaceship battles . . . whats not to like :D
 
DJ_Bucho said:
I personally can't wait to see this, it looks absolutely AWESOME, and right up my street. massive spaceship battles . . . whats not to like :D
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The fact that looking at it that way is to completely miss the point of the story? Which is probably what Hollywood has done anyway, but that's a whole Other Thing.
 
Enders game (2013)

I quite like the look of this.. Partly as it has sfx in space!

Not a fan of films that heavily focus on kids but the Sci Fi element overrides the this. Plus Harrison Ford is ok

Trailer looks fun too
Bet the soundtrack will be good too. And I've been finding that makes a big difference since I have had a decent 5.1 system
 
This was one of the first sci-fi books I ever read. If they do it right it'll be a great story.

Ford is just as I'd imagine Graff...

Wonder if they'll do Speaker for Dead.... Doubt it. :(
 
The trailer looks great but it cannot be anything like the book. The book's twist will not translate well - it would be hard to maintain tension with just showing the games at battle school and the lights that Ender directs in Combat school.

Plus the violence he inflicts on fellow kids which, while it disturbs him, he justifies to himself would certainly be hard to show
 
Talon said:
Does look good, hope they do the book justice. Never read the follow up novels, they any good?
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The Shadow series is really good, you see the the same events from Bean's point of view and get a good background story.
 
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