Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

SpeedFreak · 4 Mar 2022 at 21:56

At 40p per kWh the payback is getting towards 5-6 years.

Haggisman · 4 Mar 2022 at 21:59

Simon0001 said:
He is right though. People have gotten to soft. If your unwilling to give up a few unessecary things like heating at lighting on demand you probably wont survive when looters come for your food supplies

Having the lights on will keep the looters away anyway since they'll know you don't have any since you've spent everything on a few kwh of electricity :cry:

AORUS said:
Best to invest into solar panel @£4,800

I did the maths and worked out solar panels would take 15+ years to break even. Doesnt seem worth it when we're not planning to be here more than another 5

gpuerrilla · 4 Mar 2022 at 21:59

Yeah to state solar is over rated when panel prices are way better than they used to be and electric unit price has soared (and will likely get worse for a year or two) its a reasonable outlay particularly if your not moving any time soon.

413x · 4 Mar 2022 at 22:13

Dyson said:
Gas:

Unit rate11.4p per kWh
Standing charge27.49p per day

Electricity:

Unit rate40.21p per kWh
Standing charge44.21p per day

Fingers crossed was the right choice, time will tell

The only way I'd take this is if it 3 year with no exit fees

I can't believe my friend fixed only 3 weeks ago for 33p electricity for 2 years. Its moving so fast.

LabR@t · 4 Mar 2022 at 22:16

6217 kWh

Gas you used:

12528 kWh

Retro6 · 4 Mar 2022 at 22:21

Puzzled said:
Don't forget washing once a month rather than daily.

Have you actually tried using candles as lighting, they are rubbish and expensive.

Oh yeah most definitely :cry:

It was a luxury to have running water in the Victorian times and to wash with clean warm water most had to make do with a wash bowl and jug and strip wash, even after the the 1st and 2nd world war most people only had a bath once a week.

LabR@t · 4 Mar 2022 at 22:22

Just ordered one tonne of smokeless fuel for the stove.

Turn the gas off.

chrcoluk · 4 Mar 2022 at 22:23

I am guessing solar panels benefit east and south more, most summers is intense sun for weeks on end, last summer was highly unusual.

Retro6 · 4 Mar 2022 at 22:34

chrcoluk said:
I am guessing solar panels benefit east and south more, most summers is intense sun for weeks on end, last summer was highly unusual.

Last summer was highly unusual because of lockdowns and the sudden change of air pollution levels causing different weather, that is my theory anyway. In no way summers are intense here summers are very short. You should try spending a summer in Florida now that is intense. The UK is not as bright during the summer months. Sure we have had some heat waves but the lighting is very different compared to the southern states..

gpuerrilla · 4 Mar 2022 at 23:02

Whilst I understand your input, your forgetting the benefit of the technology. If the sun is out you are getting some energy, if its 'sunny' then you get more but that is where the panels make a difference. You can generate regular energy on a cloudy day. The northern hemisphere isn't great compared to the equator granted, but to dismiss it as not worth it is odd.

Also places like Florida feel hotter due to the humidity which makes a massive difference. If you were to believe the global warming doomsayers, even partially, we are in for longer summers and warmer years albeit wetter.

Energize · 4 Mar 2022 at 23:34

I've looked at photovoltaic solar panels myself but they just aren't economical unfortunately.

Maybe when they hit 50% efficiency they will be worth it for the North of England, but not currently!

Semple · 4 Mar 2022 at 23:46

Retro6 said:
Do we really need electricity on 24/7? I think it would be more of a case of adapting the new changes. If the price of a candle is cheaper than having a light on for the night then candles could be the answer to lighting and you'd only need them for one room at a time. Food could be cooked outside on a camp fire or on your open fire place if you have one. You can make your own entertainment without electronic gadgets and hand wash your cloths. If its cold outside that be like your fridge. Or you could run the electricity for one or two hours per day for things like heating water and using your washing machine.

That really does sound like a terrible way to live.

Semple · 4 Mar 2022 at 23:48

Energize said:
I've looked at photovoltaic solar panels myself but they just aren't economical unfortunately.

Maybe when they hit 50% efficiency they will be worth it for the North of England, but not currently!

They all have a ROI surely, some might take 15-20 years. It seems inevitable that energy prices will just continue to rise.

Surveyor · 5 Mar 2022 at 00:32

Charities warn fuel poverty could double in a year

Analysts are predicting that the war has pushed up wholesale prices, and could mean the average domestic bill in the UK hits £3,000 in October.

National Energy Action said that would put 8.5 million households in serious financial difficulty from fuel bills.

That would be twice the number of a year earlier, equating to 30% of homes.

chrcoluk · 5 Mar 2022 at 01:28

Retro6 said:
Last summer was highly unusual because of lockdowns and the sudden change of air pollution levels causing different weather, that is my theory anyway. In no way summers are intense here summers are very short. You should try spending a summer in Florida now that is intense. The UK is not as bright during the summer months. Sure we have had some heat waves but the lighting is very different compared to the southern states..

Which part of the UK do you live in?

Whilst other countries may have more extreme weather, it doesnt mean its not intense here, e.g. most summers my City meets the official UK drought conditions. Usually from July to end of August at least 6 weeks are sunny dry weather here.

I have had some very unpleasant hot, dry summers during the 201x period. But great for solar power.

200sols · 5 Mar 2022 at 06:39

I just can't believe you get 6 weeks of sunny dry hot weather every year in July and August.

theone8181 · 5 Mar 2022 at 07:09

It's tempting with solar, but I wonder what the lead time will be if everybody else has had the same idea

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413x · 5 Mar 2022 at 08:16

Surveyor said:
Charities warn fuel poverty could double in a year

30 percent of homes. Probably makes sense.

gpuerrilla · 5 Mar 2022 at 08:19

200sols said:
I just can't believe you get 6 weeks of sunny dry hot weather every year in July and August.

Well yes.

Sinbad2000 · 5 Mar 2022 at 08:28

Retro6 said:
Do we really need electricity on 24/7? I think it would be more of a case of adapting the new changes. If the price of a candle is cheaper than having a light on for the night then candles could be the answer to lighting and you'd only need them for one room at a time. Food could be cooked outside on a camp fire or on your open fire place if you have one. You can make your own entertainment without electronic gadgets and hand wash your cloths. If its cold outside that be like your fridge. Or you could run the electricity for one or two hours per day for things like heating water and using your washing machine.

Hey I left South Africa partially to get away from crap like this! :mad: