I think the only way to do it is by giving a blanket amount. If the aim is to reduce carbon emissions, it will make people think carefully about how much energy they're using given they'll be paying much more for it.
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I guess it's dependant on your location but I bet there are quite a few folks on here would love £2,000 net a month.
In other locations it would be a struggle.
Well yes but value is driven somewhat by house size within the same area. When a council is deciding what new builds council tax is to be,for example, they take into account house size (I know this from experience) as well as other factors.
My post was more spit-balling as to how @purplesky idea would be implemented given larger houses tend to consume more energy on average.... It wasn't a definite decision. Given what I said about house size vs council tax, it was a possible and valid way to determine it.
Anyways, @purplesky has now come back and said same amount for every household so a moot point
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As expected.
I also did it and came back with the same result.
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Nice attempt but even that wont work, being old you feel the cold more so its already against them in that respect. Then add in I just dont give a dam about the house if Im out working most of the time, Im not heating it during that time so why should I get any special treatment or cheap energy. Impossible to adjust perfectly but I agree with the idea people should economise and benefit with cheaper rate on that base amount, vat should only apply on higher usage really.
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Yes it would be difficult to implement in practice. There are too many variables to consider, however it doesn't really matter what policy is in place - there are always going to be winners and losers, and no system can rectify that.
Is there anything left to cut? The Tories have decimated public services over the last 12 years, I don't know how much more they can cut before services just fail entirely.
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It would never work in any straighforward way as Council Tax bands reflect a multitude of factors. As a very general idea identical modern three bed semi-detached houses might be Band B in Scotland, Band C in the Midlands, Band D in the South West and Band E in the South East. You even have identical houses in towns a short distance apart in different bands.
Suggest a workable solution that accommodates property differences?
The only equitable way would then be just a blanket amount.
Not like it will ever happen anyways so no use wasting energy (pfnar-pfnar) discussing it
What's your definition of workable? You could have system based on the characteristics of individual properties, or at least the main ones, but it would be quite complex.
As expected.
Hence the poverty trap. Earn too much for any support but not enough (or barely enough) for the minimum income standard. Welfare isnt what its cracked up to be - for a single person above 25 its £334 a month. Yes rent and council tax can be paid, but that £334 is for everything else.
I agree.
Should be like income tax.
No tax, then some Then a lot.
Special dispensation for medical equipment.
If this is implemented do you think they will give a personal allowance based on the property size and number of occupants, thus similar to the taxation system. So....a couple in a three bed house would get twice that of a single person in a one bed flat. Clearly there will be outliers in this who would still lose more than others, such as a single person in a large house or those with older inefficient properties.....but I suppose these items are in the control of the person to change should they wish (i.e. thermal upgrades, downsize etc).
I suppose it's a bit cheaper if you can't turn it on.
news.sky.com
Blackouts may be imposed on cold weekday evenings, National Grid chief warns
The warning from the head of the National Grid follows the electricity and gas systems operator outlining unlikely scenarios when blackouts may take place this winter.
very first-world problems here.Why should you get more ‘allowance’ if you have a bigger property?
Generally speaking, the bigger the house, the more money you have.
Just for the record, it’s a truly terrible idea for a whole host of reasons.
I suppose it's a bit cheaper if you can't turn it on.
Blackouts may be imposed on cold weekday evenings, National Grid chief warns
The warning from the head of the National Grid follows the electricity and gas systems operator outlining unlikely scenarios when blackouts may take place this winter.
Just a rehash of the old worst case scenario stories...
Anyone know if blackouts are just electric or gas as well - as if gas how do they stop it without depressurising the whole system?