Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

Leaving it on 21C is a strategy but your bill will differ based on external conditions, the colder outside is, the more demand there will be for internal heating. Whether it's better than longer bursts less frequently I am not sure.

October has been very mild, so even without needing heating at all, I've not really seen the house temps drop below 20C much, most of the time it's above that. Currently 21.2C downstairs and 20.4C upstairs.

Electric usage is very much consumption based, so someone who barely uses anything power hungry won't have any issues at really even with the new prices. In the example above, £42 for electric for the month if we assume a 30 day month, is only £1.40 per day.

If standing charge is £0.40, then that is £1 per day on actual electric usage, or about 3 kwh per day. Even if I don't really do anything, my house background usage is like 200W, or almost 5 kwh per day, so I'd exceed that without using my gaming PC, TV with AVR in the living room, oven, dish washer etc.
 
Captain said:
Don’t really see the issue most people are complaining about regarding gas and electric bills.

I had my heating on all day everyday in October and still only paid £55 in gas for the month and £42 for electric.


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Shock - if you don’t use much energy, then you don’t pay much either :p
Also, your standing charge is about half what everyone else is paying.
 
Standing charge looks right for gas I think based on cap pricing.

Electric SC is higher than gas nearer £0.40/day. That bill does not show Electric data :)
 
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Captain said:
Don’t really see the issue most people are complaining about regarding gas and electric bills.

I had my heating on all day everyday in October and still only paid £55 in gas for the month and £42 for electric.
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Shock horror as people live in different types of houses, in different parts of the countries and with differing conditions. Simple things like the orientation of your house and how many south facing windows you have can make a massive impact on heating. Never mind all the other factors. I visited my friend down near london last week and his house was 21c with windows open, mines been 18c with windows closed, both no heating. Mine is actually better insulated and a newer home than his. The reason his is much warmer is its a mid terrace home directly south facing. Mines a detached thats almost directly east facing. Solar gain via windows is nothing to sniff at and can drastically reducing heating costs if your home is orientated to take advantage of it.
 
Octopus Agile evangelists will be along soon - looks like that averaged 6pkwh gas through October, and can instantly switch to govt rate if it all becomes too much.
 
SDK^ said:
Shock - if you don’t use much energy, then you don’t pay much either :p
Also, your standing charge is about half what everyone else is paying.
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That’s the standing charge Bulb introduced from the 1st of October, assumed everyone was paying the same?
 
Ahleckz said:
Assume you have a very efficient boiler and well insulated house? I used around 120kwh of gas and that wasn’t with the heating on. Imagine I’d be over 1000kwh at least if the heating was on all day.
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Likewise, my hot water alone is around 160kWh for the month.

Long may this warm weather last!
 
My electric usage was up 60% last month, it not huge (about £10 more) as my bills are super low but struggling to see how I used more. Only thing I can think off is my fridge/freezer broke 3 days ago and maybe that was using more electric as it’s struggled to maintain temps.
 
Surveyor said:
One of the most ridiculous comments in this thread.
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I do wonder on the various effects to the entire circuit. So if you have thermistor control of the heating and 'leave it on' with good insulation you shouldnt in theory require that much gas burnt as your house can retain the heat. Thats the ideal its just more of a rarity for most I guess

CaptainRAVE said:
Heating ‘on’ with thermostat set to 10C I suspect, so in reality, off :p
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Anyone young, relatively active especially on this forum 16c maybe less is fine
 
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silversurfer said:
I do wonder on the various effects to the entire circuit. So if you have thermistor control of the heating and 'leave it on' with good insulation you shouldnt in theory require that much gas burnt as your house can retain the heat. Thats the ideal its just more of a rarity for most I guess
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Everyone's circumstances are different which is why it's a ridiculous comment. My heating has technically been on throughout October and I only used 20% of the gas @Captain used and that included hot water and some cooking. My use doesn't mean other people don't have legitimate concerns though.
 
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Goodie said:
How on earth to you get your gas usage to be so low? I thought we were doing well, 125 aug, 179 sept, 221 oct. Heating hasn't yet been on. Family of 4 so I guess the kids baths would be the main chunk of that, albeit that's only x2 per week.
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That's with heating on as well.
Both my children are little enough that they shower with us, or they still fit in a baby bath, I've swapped out some showers for basin washes. None of us shower or bathe daily though I used to, but seen no issue with only a couple of times a week now or after exercise.
 
MOOGLEYS said:
And comments like that is exactly why we are in this mess……. Lol.
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The total return of Exxon for example, from 2000-2020, was around 2%, in 2021 that changes to about 5%, and until now it is 7%., im sure it will be extremely similar for all oil companies.

Thus bringing them in line with the overall stock market, give or take.

So at what point should the government intervene and do what exactly?

Pepsi has returns 9.9% over the same 22 year period (annual compounded). Thats much more profit, what is to be done about them?
 
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