Energy Suppliers

Vanquish-Storm · 9 Oct 2019 at 00:18

Has anyone seen or heard of green.energy?

They look like a new supplier but their rates are slot cheaper than I have with bulb... Is it too good to be true? Will they end up shutting down or rising prices once they have you on board?

pastymuncher · 14 Oct 2019 at 13:33

Are EON still terrible? The reason I ask is that their Autumn 2019 fixed deal on MSE's Cheap Energy Club works out quite a bit cheaper than Bulb who I am currently with. Gas is 3.278p per kWh and a 5.250p standing charge while Electricity is a little more expensive per unit at 16.338p per kWh but the standing charge of 5.250p per day makes it less per day than what we are paying Bulb. It works out to around £85 cheaper per year plus £25 for switching payable after 3 months. I think it could be worth getting on a fixed deal in case Brexit actually does happen and the prices go through the roof.

b0rn2sk8 · 14 Oct 2019 at 13:41

No more or less terrible than anyone else.

Fine if no problems, pain in the rear if there is but the same can be said for almost all suppliers.

jpaul · 14 Oct 2019 at 14:53

pastymuncher said:
It works out to around £85 cheaper per year plus £25 for switching payable after 3 months.

yes indeed - seems like a good deals versus bulb with similar savings 3.26|15.74 sc 5.25 versus bulb 3.37|13.58 sc 20.4.

not sure the MSE comparator thing includes tarifs which need smart meter , and I cant see a way to get it to show me the octopus tarif of that type, that I know exists - Martins on the beach or in court, and not working on his app.

robj20 · 14 Oct 2019 at 15:09

I'm swapping to that Eon deal. Not looking forward to the pestering to have a smart meter though. I won't be having one.

SPG · 14 Oct 2019 at 15:34

I went with Green Energy this year, no issues but trying to get them to change the DD date is like talking to a brick wall for some reason, Not that its a problem but the OCD in me wants everything done and paid by the 5th of each Month

Simon · 14 Oct 2019 at 17:39

Signed up for Scottish power. Now getting constant nagging for a smart meter. Doh.

Are they really that bad ?

b0rn2sk8 · 14 Oct 2019 at 18:37

Had a Scottish power one fitted the other day, condition of the tariff. Mines been fine, unplugged the smart display and put it in a draw though. Waste of electricity

They couldn’t install the gas due to distance from electric box (opposite sides of the house so no signal) so I still have the dumb gas meter.

robj20 · 14 Oct 2019 at 19:31

b0rn2sk8 said:
Had a Scottish power one fitted the other day, condition of the tariff. Mines been fine, unplugged the smart display and put it in a draw though. Waste of electricity

They couldn’t install the gas due to distance from electric box (opposite sides of the house so no signal) so I still have the dumb gas meter.

You sure it was a condition of the tarrif.

My Eon one makes it sound like it, bit the wording is you agree to be contacted, not agree to have a meter fitted.
Then in the terms about what breaches the contract there is no mention of refusing a smart meter.
So they can contact me all they want there not fitting one.

jpaul · 14 Oct 2019 at 20:20

Simon said:
Are they really that bad ?

despite the latest adds suggesting they are eco/child friendly, and the risk that Greta will hex you if you don't have one installed,
unless you find it difficult sending a reading once a month, or the home display will give you something useful, or, you have an EV ... I don't see a reason to spend probably half a day getting one installed.

b0rn2sk8 · 14 Oct 2019 at 22:52

robj20 said:
You sure it was a condition of the tarrif.

Fairly sure it was a condition, the communications said if you don’t have it installed they’ll move me to the variable tariff, that said I didn’t read the T&C particularly closely.

The installer was friendly, they came when they said they would and was gone in the hour. I chose the date online, basically had the pick of any day for at least a month other than a Sunday.

jpaul · 15 Oct 2019 at 13:38

pastymuncher said:
Are EON still terrible? The reason I ask is that their Autumn 2019 fixed deal on MSE's Cheap Energy Club

This Money saving energy club/website is junk
due diligence I want to see the terms and conditions before I sign up
- obliged to pretend I want to switch before it will show me a T&C's link
- the document it then presents, is then just generic (and does not confirm it would not oblige me to have a smart meter install)

un-necessary obfuscation

TNA · 15 Oct 2019 at 14:33

jpaul said:
This Money saving energy club/website is junk
due diligence I want to see the terms and conditions before I sign up
- obliged to pretend I want to switch before it will show me a T&C's link
- the document it then presents, is then just generic (and does not confirm it would not oblige me to have a smart meter install)

un-necessary obfuscation

They cannot force you can they?

robj20 · 15 Oct 2019 at 14:45

TNA said:
They cannot force you can they?

No. Like I said above the wording is, you agree to be contacted. Not agree to have one fitted.

Further down you have reasons to end the tarrif and refusing a smart meter isn't one of them.
Further proof is that your still entitled to that tarrif even if you can't have a smart meter fitted.

"With this tariff you agree to be contacted during the tariff term for the installation of a smart meter."

jpaul · 15 Oct 2019 at 14:56

TNA said:
They cannot force you can they?

robj20 said:
No. Like I said above the wording is, you agree to be contacted. Not agree to have one fitted.

the clause in the contract could say ... this tarif is subjects to having a smart meter installed, and you will revert to standard variable if one can't be installed
I inspected some British gas contracts a while back that showed that

for this particular eon mse deal, although the pdf says you don't, it does not say, in black and white, it is the T&C's for the specific mse deal ... it's generic.

robj20 · 15 Oct 2019 at 14:58

jpaul said:
the clause in the contract could say ... this tarif is subjects to having a smart meter installed, and you will revert to standard variable if one can't be installed
I inspected some British gas contracts a while back that showed that

for this particular eon mse deal, although the pdf says you don't, it does not say, in black and white, it is the T&C's for the specific mse deal ... it's generic.

Mine isn't it's specific to my tarrif.

http://r.eonenergy.com/lnk/AMoAAFAL...FpbCZ1dG1fY2FtcGFpZ249RTQ5MzcmY2NvZGU9RTQ5Mzc

Simon · 15 Oct 2019 at 15:19

Seems they are version 1 meters too when I went online to book so going to avoid it as effectively it limits the suppliers next time.

pastymuncher · 16 Oct 2019 at 19:33

Gone with that EON deal as I really want to be on a fixed tariff in case Brexit happens and sends prices through the roof. That's my second switch in four months and took less than a couple of minutes to do!! I still can't understand why people are frightened about switching.

BigBoy · 16 Oct 2019 at 19:36

Simon said:
Seems they are version 1 meters too when I went online to book so going to avoid it as effectively it limits the suppliers next time.

They cannot be smets1 meters anyone caught installing them still will be heavily fined, even ones that have gone wrong must be upgraded to Smets2. Also we (EDF Energy) were working in partnership with E-On to install meters for them but due to the software they use being n utter nightmare that has since lapsed (thank god). I have never had the pleasure of using such a horrible system before especially to have it fail 90% of the time!!

Zenduri · 16 Oct 2019 at 20:40

jpaul said:
despite the latest adds suggesting they are eco/child friendly, and the risk that Greta will hex you if you don't have one installed,
unless you find it difficult sending a reading once a month, or the home display will give you something useful, or, you have an EV ... I don't see a reason to spend probably half a day getting one installed.

Lol wut

You will be amazed at the amount of people that refuse to read their meters or cant be arsed to read them. Then to top it off the meter reader doesnt get access and they then have the balls to whinge about estimated bills. I think you will find the MAJORITY of people dont bother reading their meter so having the ability to read it for them is beneficial.

Also its about an hour not half a day

Simon said:
Seems they are version 1 meters too when I went online to book so going to avoid it as effectively it limits the suppliers next time.

As @BigBoy stated anyone installing SMETS1's will get fined out the ass for their trouble. All suppliers should be DCC enrolled now for SMETS2 but even then some companies are still struggling to even do the basics with SMETS2