Engine Conversion Price?
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You think I don't know that?Dogbreath said:
All Vauxhall fuel pumps can cope with a C20XE apart from the Single Point Injection one in early injection Novas.
Assuming he gets the Fanimould with the engine, he can get an OEM GSi-replacement exhaust for not very much at all. £30 from the scrappy?
It should be. If not, he can go back to the scrappy and pay £20 for a new one.
Insurance is often cheaper for a modified lesser model than for 'the real thing'.
For example, my Chevette, if I built it to HSR-spec, 2.3, 16v head et cetera...Would cost less to insure than if I bought an HSR.
So, despite your condescenscion, I ask you; do you know that the GM Family 2 group of engines are virtually interchangeable? They are almost literally bolt-on changes. Very little fabrication is required to put a bigger Family 2 engine where a lesser one once resided.
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You'd have to make sure it's the agreed price though, otherwise you're just gonna end straight up in trouble!
penski said:
Right, now try getting quote for an old banger of an Astra rather than a classic. My boss has just paid £150 FC for his Porsche 911 SC that has been modified, but is that relevant?
If you could just quote the bit where I mention that any kind of fabrication is required please do so...I can't appear to find it.
As engine swaps go, sure it's a relatively straightforward one, but there are always dozens of little differences between models that either get ignored or are bodged when engine swaps are done, and it almost always adds up to a crappy, unreliable installation. I've seen dozens of frankly awful engine conversions, and all of them were done on tiny budgets by people who didn't realise the scope of the work when they started.
"condescenscion" Dictionary.com tbh.
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Id really start off with a better base model to begin with - the insurance quotes will go off the car the engine is from and as mentioned youll be limited to a few insurers only. Id save your money and buy a GSi which will come fully loaded with kit, nice interior etc.
And FWIW Id definitely swap the fuel pump - you dont want to be running an SPi pump with an MPi engine.
And FWIW Id definitely swap the fuel pump - you dont want to be running an SPi pump with an MPi engine.
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I really don't see how this can be compared with the OP wanting to change his bog-standard 1.6 to a bog-standard 2.0 engine.penski said:
In your example that guy has obviously spent a lot of time putting in a bonkers motor into a standard car, which is a great achievment.
You're not seriously saying that the OPs 2.0 is comparable to that?
I'm totally with Fox on this..the OP just wants a bit more power, but seems to be going on about it the wrong way.
robbiemc said:
See that bit where I said 'some inspiration'?
It meant (oddly enough...
) 'some inspiration'. A povo-spec Astra with a powerful engine. He has a povo-spec Astra, he wants a more powerful engine. It is inspiration with regards to how to make a good sleeper.Some of us like fast cars that look like slow cars
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penski said:Some of us like fast cars that look like slow cars
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He clearly doesn't though, does he, becuase he's already tarted it up with some awful looking alloys, clear side repeaters, etc etc.
If it was a bog standard Merit, on steels, with faded black bumper, orange indicators, then maybe.
robbiemc said:
The 20XE that he's thinking about putting into it isnt a "Bog-Standard" 2.0L engine. The bog standard 2.0L, as in the higher model Astra's of that range is an 8V unit with around 126BHP, not the 156 BHP 20XE (which was only available in the GSi in the MK3 Astra range and GTE 16V in the MK2). Although to be honest the 2.0 8v wouldnt be all that bad a conversion either.
An XE plonked into that car would make it seriously nippy, but as has been stated there's more to consider than just the engine conversion, especially for a car that after the transplant would do 60 in a shade over 7 seconds and probably just short of 140MPH ...
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[TW]Fox said:
Didn't know that - thought it was stock. :/
A guy I know's flogging this on the bay:
Uber-rare 'boot' version!
What on earth were GM smoking in the early eighties?
Colour coordination to the max:
Now THAT with a C20XE or (my preferance) a 2.0 8v running gas and a turbo would be fun.
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See, I can half understand that. Never would I want to do it, but I can see the appeal. It's the same mindset that leads M5 owners to badge up as a 520i.
But IMHO the original thread starter just wants a faster car - sleeper properties are incidental...
But IMHO the original thread starter just wants a faster car - sleeper properties are incidental...
Phil,
I was quoted £300-£400 at the garage up by ATS for swapping the 2 engines over in my Corrados after my accident so what youve been quoted isnt too bad. I was also quoted £1500 to fit a 1.8T engine into one of them if i could source all the parts.
If i was you id check some Vauxhall forums too see if there is any problems with doing the conversion, but as the mechanic is vauxhall trained he should be able to give you a list of stuff you will need.
I was quoted £300-£400 at the garage up by ATS for swapping the 2 engines over in my Corrados after my accident so what youve been quoted isnt too bad. I was also quoted £1500 to fit a 1.8T engine into one of them if i could source all the parts.
If i was you id check some Vauxhall forums too see if there is any problems with doing the conversion, but as the mechanic is vauxhall trained he should be able to give you a list of stuff you will need.
Me and my friend swapped over the engine in my 1.4 mk3 Astra merit. Was only a 2.0 8v thought. But then I got the engine in a car for £50 and we done all the work ourselves, outside, in the winter. Had loads of fun with the car, but we couldn't get rid of a problem with the brakes, which leaded me to get rid of the car. The same engine is actually now in my friends daewoo nexia.
I don't think its a bad price for the price of them parts and labour, but then is it worth it over selling your car and buying a car made with a big engine in it?
I don't think its a bad price for the price of them parts and labour, but then is it worth it over selling your car and buying a car made with a big engine in it?
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penski said:More evidence of Fox just not getting 'it'...
Do it and leave the Merit badges on it. Even better if it's in that brown colour they all seemed to be in...and is so faded it looks like a prime candidate for a T-Cut advert...
Some inspiration:
320bhp LET.
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Personally I think that's bloody awesome.
A local lad whose very much into his 205s charges about £1000 all in (inc lump etc) for fitting an MI16 to any 205/309 GTI. Sounds pretty similar to me.
I'd be happy with £1000 all in.
Anyone know how easy it is to put a VAG 1.8T into a MK3 Golf Driver? Plus the cost?
Been given a MK3 driver for my winter run around whilst the scoob hinbernates
I'd be happy with £1000 all in.
Anyone know how easy it is to put a VAG 1.8T into a MK3 Golf Driver? Plus the cost?
Been given a MK3 driver for my winter run around whilst the scoob hinbernates
I asked my friend about it. He thinks that price is ok. But is he doing brake upgrades? What mileage is on the engine? Is he just changing the engine and downsizing the pressure plate to fit the manky 1.4 gearbox? If he went the proper way about it he would have to upgrade shafts to fit the f-16/f-20 gearbox an then he would change the struts too.
You wouldn't change the engine to a z20let, it had chipped keys and you need the ignition barrel an probably the steering column which ain't gonna fit. No one attempts it yet because its too much hassle the c20let is a lot easier to wire up.
You wouldn't change the engine to a z20let, it had chipped keys and you need the ignition barrel an probably the steering column which ain't gonna fit. No one attempts it yet because its too much hassle the c20let is a lot easier to wire up.
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