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I'm a Turbo man myself, more specifically Audi Inline 5 Turbo. I'm quite happy that Audi have gone back to their Inline 5 Turbo "roots" with the new TT RS and the "New" quattro.
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Mine is 249g/km
That's not going to be many cars... My work is about 300yds away...
But I get what you mean.
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I have just come to the end of an environmental manufacturing study.
The way we live, the products we buy, use chemicals etc to make and then throw into a landfill mean we are completed ****ed in the near future. Raw materials, landfill space, water shortages, power shortages etc.
Reducing car emissions does nothing as this is couple of percent at most improvement in the world's emissions when we need something like 10x the reduction.
The focus should be on new cars and clean power plants. Tweaking an internal combustion engine is not going to make a lot of difference.
All imo of course, but I completely fail to see how dropped a few % of CO2 emissions will do anything when I drive past an enourmous coal power station and a massive landfill site. Carbon Dioxide is the least of our worries in the mid-long term!
I would like to see some bigger engined cars out there. As others have mentioned, calling the new Ford engines ecoboost sounds a bit pansy tbh.
The way we live, the products we buy, use chemicals etc to make and then throw into a landfill mean we are completed ****ed in the near future. Raw materials, landfill space, water shortages, power shortages etc.
Reducing car emissions does nothing as this is couple of percent at most improvement in the world's emissions when we need something like 10x the reduction.
The focus should be on new cars and clean power plants. Tweaking an internal combustion engine is not going to make a lot of difference.
All imo of course, but I completely fail to see how dropped a few % of CO2 emissions will do anything when I drive past an enourmous coal power station and a massive landfill site. Carbon Dioxide is the least of our worries in the mid-long term!
I would like to see some bigger engined cars out there. As others have mentioned, calling the new Ford engines ecoboost sounds a bit pansy tbh.
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This is quite simple really.
There are no limits on CO2, this is evident by the fact you can still buy a Veyron, all the hyperbole is really off the mark. Taxation on CO2 is just an attempt to influence consumer choices.
Emissions are nasty stuff that the EURO emission targets set limits for.
The wiki graph is a decent simplification of the targets for some pollutants, of course EU5 came in at the end of 2010 not 2008.
Source for a read if you want to see in more detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards
There are no limits on CO2, this is evident by the fact you can still buy a Veyron, all the hyperbole is really off the mark. Taxation on CO2 is just an attempt to influence consumer choices.
Emissions are nasty stuff that the EURO emission targets set limits for.
The wiki graph is a decent simplification of the targets for some pollutants, of course EU5 came in at the end of 2010 not 2008.
Source for a read if you want to see in more detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards
In this country at least.
Not sure how it'll make a difference to the atmosphere though...
.... Even in the new BMW 1M Coupe?
This is quite simple really.
There are no limits on CO2, this is evident by the fact you can still buy a Veyron, all the hyperbole is really off the mark. Taxation on CO2 is just an attempt to influence consumer choices.
Emissions are nasty stuff that the EURO emission targets set limits for.
The wiki graph is a decent simplification of the targets for some pollutants, of course EU5 came in at the end of 2010 not 2008.
Source for a read if you want to see in more detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards
Do these limitations only apply to mass produced cars?
So what about the super cars?
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Its only a ACEA proposal on CO2 limits, its only the French who are really pushing those limits as their marques are pretty much their already.
This is why you see VW with Porsche and Fiat with Ferrari.
Supercars are low volume so the effect on the averages will be relatively small
Ah I see. Guess that makes sense then.
variable displacement on large engines (or hybrids like Lexus LS600 etc) give you an oportunity to have small engine efficiency at low loads and big engine power profile when you need it.
"Instant torque" was mentioned earlier in the thread. I presume this is a reference to electric in some form? If not, tell more.
Sure there are lots more small engines now than there were but there are also a lot more large engines. Even VW make V8s and V10s now which would have been unthinkable in say 1990?
"Instant torque" was mentioned earlier in the thread. I presume this is a reference to electric in some form? If not, tell more.
Sure there are lots more small engines now than there were but there are also a lot more large engines. Even VW make V8s and V10s now which would have been unthinkable in say 1990?
And Aston Martin with the Cygnet.
He means VW and and Fiat dont make supercars because they own companies like Porsche and Ferrari