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Entry level Alder Lake: i5-12400 review, the new value king

Two flaws in that review
Because the donor was 12900K, cores are binned - production 12400 will not be as power efficient.
Also amount of cache is from 12900K, almost double of what is preficted for 12400. Which will be a huge bonus in game benchmarks

But overall, Alder Lake IPC at low price will definitely be a strong showing.
 
alec said:
Two flaws in that review
Because the donor was 12900K, cores are binned - production 12400 will not be as power efficient.
Also amount of cache is from 12900K, almost double of what is preficted for 12400. Which will be a huge bonus in game benchmarks

But overall, Alder Lake IPC at low price will definitely be a strong showing.
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The donor was a 12600k unless I'm reading incorrectly so only a very small cache difference.
 
So just to confirm, the above slides are not an actual 12400f, but a 12600K that has been adjusted in BIOS to closely replicate the specs of a 12400f?


Hopefully the actual results are quite similar, because if they are, it’ll be excellent value. A bit like the 3470 of old :)
 
The 12400 does very well at 1080p resolutions and above (beating the 5600X), while the 'E-Cores' on the 12600K add a little extra performance, it's almost not worth bothering with.

Intel should really make an Alder Lake chip with 8 performance cores and no 'E-Cores', as it looks like that's where the price/performance sweet spot would be.

Some impressive 'Watts per frame' statistics too:
https://www.igorslab.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/02e-1080p-Efficiency.png
 
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It's going to totally cannibalise Intel own 12600K sales for people who only play games, and need to save as much money as possible to put towards the overpriced GPU's. Price wise it looks to land at $178 for 1000/units in the non-F variant, and $166 for the F SKU.
 
alec said:
Two flaws in that review
Because the donor was 12900K, cores are binned - production 12400 will not be as power efficient.
Also amount of cache is from 12900K, almost double of what is preficted for 12400. Which will be a huge bonus in game benchmarks

But overall, Alder Lake IPC at low price will definitely be a strong showing.
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Wait, he disabled cores to make up a theoretical 12400?

Then its not a 12400, for a start they are a different bin, they might even be a different SKU entirely, for example the 12400 might not be swimming in as much L3 cache as a 12900K with half the cores disabled and be that as it may it makes this test utterly flawed as an over abundance of L3 per core can have a significant effect on performance.

This is click bait. Or he's an idiot, you chose...
 
humbug said:
Wait, he disabled cores to make up a theoretical 12400?

Then its not a 12400, for a start they are a different bin, they might even be a different SKU entirely, for example the 12400 might not be swimming in as much L3 cache as a 12900K with half the cores disabled and be that as it may it makes this test utterly flawed as an over abundance of L3 per core can have a significant effect on performance.

This is click bait. Or he's an idiot, you chose...
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He used a 12600k with Ecores disabled and clocks and power limits adjusted to 12400 levels so the cache difference is only 2mb.
 
Intel H670 motherboard. £100~
Intel 12400F CPU. £170~
Intel Arc A380 Graphics card. £199~

Basic PSU. £35
MIDI Case with a pair of fans. £50
1tb SSD. £70
Artic freezer 7. £15

Could be the new 1920x1080 weapon of choice for gamers.

I can see Intel gaining some of OEM sales with slot powered graphics card, sub 50watt CPU and low power chipset if they can handly beat the 5700G in CPU and graphics performance.
 
the problem is there isnt any budget boards for them. the prices are stupid. mortar for eg is 180 quid ! mortar boards normally 100 - 120 which is reasonable. 180 is taking the ****
 
Unless you see a comparison with a value budget GPU then you can't say its the value king. Comparing a 5600x with a MSI Radeon RX 6900XT Gaming X OC doesn't show value just the CPU bottle neck which isn't relevant for value systems.
 
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