Ethernet Wall plates

Well I spoke to my neighbour currently on holiday in Italy who also has one of these new builds and is an ex BT engineer. He tried the whole phone to ethernet thing in the first year. Nope, money skimped just the 2 wires! So will be the external install.

Thanks to everyone for the help as I will certainly save a bit of money by going for CAT 6 over 6a and some cheaper wallplates!
 
ChrisD. said:
Why?
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Uses less power.
. Thinner lighter cables.
Future proof
Cost less than 10gbit ethernet port switches (which there is not many for a reason. Google 10gbit switches and they are mostly sfp+ devices)

And those are just some of the reasons I pointed out.

If its 10gbit you need, use fibre lc with sfp plus transceivers and you are good to go
 
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jonneymendoza said:
Uses less power.
. Thinner lighter cables.
Future proof
Cost less than 10gbit ethernet port switches (which there is not many for a reason. Google 10gbit switches and they are mostly sfp+ devices)

And those are just some of the reasons I pointed out.

If its 10gbit you need, use fibre lc with sfp plus transceivers and you are good to go
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And what about the client end with RJ45?
 
jonneymendoza said:
Get a sfp card? Chances are the client machine doesn't have a 10gbit nic of any kind unless it's a high end motherboard.
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Switch to switch runs should be fibre. Well, could be fibre.

Client runs should nearly always be copper, you can't terminate fibre into a faceplate for the vast majority of consumer devices to be able to plug into. That was why I put 'why', as it's not really a good suggestion.
 
I can see the logic in adding provisions for strategic fibre runs to be added in the future - like between a home office and a network closet and out to the location of the main TV. I can't envisage copper access going quicker than 10Gb for a long time especially when you consider how long it took to get there from 1Gb. If you need 25Gb access to a NAS or whatever then fibre is the best way to achieve that for now and likely in the future.

Fibre as a client access thing is going to need fusion splicers to drop in price, or a decent mechanical termination system to exist.
 
I kinda shied away from deploying fibre; one because I only need at most 10gbps network anyway for the foreseeable future, and secondly, I've heard that the modules can get fairly hot? Or is that only for the RJ45 10gbps conversion modules to SFP? Heard it can exceed 60C and thus for a home environment, felt it wasn't suitable for use. Especially with elderly and young ones around who with that kinda of tempeature, is asking for trouble.
 
So many wrong info regarding fibre in this thread..

Take it from some someone who recently rewired a house with fibre. It's cheaper than copper 10gbit.

There is a reason why many network engineers say that if you want 10gbit, use fibre if you can.

Another reason to use fibre is because it runs way cooler than copper rj45 10gbit
 
It's impractical to use as an access medium at home because 99% of what you'd be connecting in a house needs converting back to copper before it can be used, and the tooling required to terminate it is not something that many people have available to them.
 
Caged said:
It's impractical to use as an access medium at home because 99% of what you'd be connecting in a house needs converting back to copper before it can be used, and the tooling required to terminate it is not something that many people have available to them.
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99 percent of what your connecting to doesn't even have 10gbit nics so you still need to install a 10gbit nic of some kind to begin with.

And you do know you can buy pre terminated fibre cables at various lengths right?

Fibre cables are also way cheaper than some ethernet copper cables.
 
If I wire a house with Cat6 cable I can plug things I own into it. If those devices aren't 10GbE capable then they negotiate a 1Gb or 100Mbps link and work fine, also I can do PoE to them if required.

If I wire a house with fibre I can't do anything with it without e.g. a media converter behind my TV. I'm confused why pre-terminated cable would even come up in a discussion about wiring a house - what systems do you have in place for managing the many metres of excess cable and preventing the connectors from damage during the installation?
 
Caged said:
If I wire a house with Cat6 cable I can plug things I own into it. If those devices aren't 10GbE capable then they negotiate a 1Gb or 100Mbps link and work fine, also I can do PoE to them if required.

If I wire a house with fibre I can't do anything with it without e.g. a media converter behind my TV. I'm confused why pre-terminated cable would even come up in a discussion about wiring a house - what systems do you have in place for managing the many metres of excess cable and preventing the connectors from damage during the installation?
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Its called measuring.

I've measures how long my wires need to be and fed them through walls under floors etc.

If they are too long then you wrap them up to make them shorter if need be. Use some imagination.

I can't speak for yours or anyone else's property and it's layout so your mileage may vary.

If you wire all with cat 6,you will need to spend extra to get 10gbit rj45 switches (which there is not many in the market compared to sfp)

But if you do like me and wire both cat 6 and fibre, your laughing.

I have both as not all my devices are 10gbit.

I don't think our streaming boxes or gaming consoles are going to have 10gbit rj45 ports any time soon lol.

I wish they did or I wish I could manually slap on a 10gbit fibre nic on my Ps5 but I can't :(
 
Caged said:
If I wire a house with Cat6 cable I can plug things I own into it. If those devices aren't 10GbE capable then they negotiate a 1Gb or 100Mbps link and work fine, also I can do PoE to them if required.

If I wire a house with fibre I can't do anything with it without e.g. a media converter behind my TV. I'm confused why pre-terminated cable would even come up in a discussion about wiring a house - what systems do you have in place for managing the many metres of excess cable and preventing the connectors from damage during the installation?
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Exactly this.

For client runs, use copper. If necessary, you can use a 10 GbE module for clients which have a 10 GbE SFP+ based NIC in them. Anything over 10 GbE is likely going to be next to a switch which supports it, in which case use DAC as an example like most data centres do.

For switch to switch runs, fibre is good if the switches support that medium, ie, SFP+ cages.

It seems mad to me to put in fibre to faceplates around the house for normal clients to consume.
 
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