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Etiquette for Lycra Clad Nutters?

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Demon, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. Rroff

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    Yeah at least one case where I've only spotted a cyclist in the dark in time due to them wearing white socks - all other clothing dark colours and not properly working lights.
     
  2. Orionaut

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    The only time my old Landcruiser smokes is when I am having to use kickdown to get past a cyclist! Other than that it is pretty clean.

    :p
     
  3. [TW]Fox

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    No, it isn't.
     
  4. Orionaut

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    Well, Relatively :D

    The full throttle, kickdown, 4.2 litres worth of straight through exhaust, boost compensator put to max, redline turbo diesel wonderfulness is reserved specifically for jerk cyclists on single track roads who refuse to take the, literally 3-4 seconds worth of time, to tuck into a passing place to allow me to get past them! :mad:

    Stage one for normal driving, Think stage two for driving hard!



    (3 and 4 are just silly :p )

    On the rare occasion, like once every two years or so, that a cyclist does pull over, they get a trickle past with no smoke. (There are a lot of single track roads round here and a lot of inconsiderate jerk cyclists who ride on them too!)

    Apart from that, Kickdown is hardly ever used...

    If cyclists were nicer and more considerate people (As a demographic) the world would be a nicer place for cyclists!

    (Mind, I was producing a whole lot less smut yesterday on the A31 with my 25 year old Landcruiser than the guy who passed in the relatively modern Audi at "Stage 4" and actually managed to leave a large smut splat on the road surface! so new isn't necessarily better! :eek: )
     
  5. Simon

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    Should be illegal to have diesels like that
     
  6. jpaul

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  7. Terminal_Boy

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    Depends if the US state in question has strict emissions regulations or not.
     
  8. b0rn2sk8

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    It doesn’t change the point that they should be illegal.

    Purposely filling another humans lungs with toxic fumes and particulates because they duels you up for a few minutes is utterly abhorrent. Over time it can cause people serious and lasting damage, particularly children.
     
  9. [TW]Fox

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    Agreed.

    The real story with diesel should be cracking down on stuff like this.
     
  10. vanpeebles

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    *roll fox in disco coals*
     
  11. hurfdurf

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    All poverty spec fuel needs scrapping and those that purchased such beasts should not be compensated after a certain period.
     
  12. Nasher

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    It is. Just like removing a cat. But it's un-enforcable. They won't do it with police around and the police can't check every single car.

    If it was me I'd use a smoke launcher. Nice bright orange, so they all come out looking like Trump :D
     
  13. jpaul

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    *REBOOT* - well this guy was really a motorcylist
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/thomas-hanlon-ebike-sakine-cihan-dalston-crash-a4376446.html


    So he got off killing a pedestarin by carelesss driving/riding his motorised bicycle at 30mph and killing a lady who didn't see him. ?
    Questions I'd have
    - did bicyle have a braking system, or competent rider too, for riding at 30mph in that environment. ie not careless ... he's a heavyweight
    - pedestrian wouldn't have expected a cyclist at 30mph
     
  14. Nasher

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    He will end up being sued for every penny by the family. Since he had no insurance.
     
  15. Foghorn Leghorn

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    On what grounds?
     
  16. Dis86

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    And that, folks, is why you look before you step in to the road.
     
  17. Rroff

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    One of the reasons I have a dashcam these days despite the hate they get from certain individuals :D would potentially make a big difference in defence.
     
  18. Dis86

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    I've already posted on here about how it did for a friend of my father. He ran over and killed a 7 year old kid who ran from between 2 parked cars.
    Even the kid's mum said he wasn't to blame in the slightest but the police and cps wouldn't hear it. Charged with death by dangerous and a couple of other things.
    Went to court, dashcam footage was shown and completely absolved him of any wrong-doing. Judge was mystified how it even got to court - turns out nobody had bothered to ask him for his side of events! Basically you killed a child therefore must be guilty.
     
  19. jpaul

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    you can see'ish more details/cam here .
    https://road.cc/content/news/271675...ing-london-pedestrians-death-careless-driving.

    cyclist on his 30mph machine probably presented small/unexpected target on her peripheral vision , it's almost the reverse of the think Bike, pulling-out scenario.

    edit:
     
  20. Bear

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    I have little sympathy for the cyclist as he is obviously riding an illegaly modified ebike so he should suffer whatever the punishment he gets but it is generally nothing to do with small target etc but nearly always to do with pedestrians not looking whilst crossing the road because they dont hear anything coming. The amount of times Ive been out on my bike in the mornings and people just step out into the road without looking and I have to shout out "Look out" is rediculous and it isnt always phone zombies either