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Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 07:00

Extra terrestrials. Do you believe?

If life happened once here on earth then surely on some other planet it happened too. If we found ET's then what would be the consequences for religion and us? After all the bible doesn't mention them. They would probably want to kill us, maybe eat us, then they would have a new planet to inhabit.

If the universe is infinite as some people think, then an infinite possible number of things will happen. I can't get my head around infinity but yet it's the logical conclusion regarding our existence. So if infinity is real, then so are ET's. More interesting though, if infinity is real then there are an infinite number of you and me's, all living slightly different lives. In one universe, JFK didn't get shot, in another, WW2 didn't happen.

Then there is a-biogenesis. How the hell did that happen. Life from no life? I guess this is one of the prime reasons that the religious have faith in god. I accept a-biogenesis but concede that for some people it's easier to just believe god did it. This begs the question though, where did god come from? Well we have evidence for life and a-biogenesis but we have none for god. Harry Potter was a good work of fiction, much better than the bible.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 08:54

I find it amusing that in America there are so many supposed alien sightings and yet no hard evidence. Seems to me like people just make stuff up. Attention seekers.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 10:15

Orionaut said:
You don't think that Victorian paleontologists in stove pipe hats were the first people to ever find and dig up Dinosaur bones do you??

No. The Romans found dinosaur bones but didn't realise what they had found. In a million or so years, something will be digging up human bones and probably wondering what they were.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 14:57

I believe religion is on the way out anyway. We are all more educated now and realise that belief without evidence is foolish. As for aliens, yeah I think they are out there but we are unlikely to encounter them.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 15:05

Nasher said:
A big problem is we only know how to look for what's familiar to us. There could be life everywhere but we just don't know what we're looking at.

Well life is easy to spot. It tends to be visible and animate. In our solar system only earth has life. However in an infinite universe life must also be infinite in it's existence.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 15:22

woppy101 said:
You have to remember that the signals we have sent out have have traveled less than 1% across our galaxy so its very likely that nobody knows we’re here
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2012/3390.html

Yeah I am aware of that. But that is us looking for them. What if they are looking for us? Maybe they know we are here and simply don't care or maybe they will never reach us because they exist in a part of the universe too far to travel here in a life time.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 16:16

SexyGreyFox said:
Seriously?
"Worldwide, more than eight-in-ten people identify with a religious group".
It might be getting smaller in Britain but we've got the rest of the World to think about.

Religion used to be ubiquitous among people. But atheism is on the rise. Why put your faith into something for which there is no evidence? Foolish, no? Trust me, when society grows up and gets properly educated, religion will be gone.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 16:34

Wizzfizz said:
^ don't think so.

Well maybe you are right. Morons will always exist.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 18:13

Nasher said:
Yes because they are totally indoctrinated. After a certain age you just can't change peoples minds like that.

Not so. Many people lose their faith, it happens all the time.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 18:32

Wizzfizz said:
What makes a person that follows a certain religion a moron?

Belief without evidence is moronic is it not? Do you believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy? I'm guessing not.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 19:02

dowie said:
You do have a way with words Silver... There are other ways of conveying that you think religion is silly without calling the followers themselves "morons".

Why is belief without evidence not moronic?

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 21:06

woppy101 said:
Well here we go, someone’s managed to turn this from an ET thread to discussing why people who follow religion are morons, this place beggars belief sometimes! by the way I do not follow or believe in any religion whatsoever I see religion as the root of evil and believe in science, but would never call someone a moron because the chose to believe in a god.

Give yourself a pat on the back lad. Now jog on. You can't escape the truth that belief without evidence is moronic.

Sliver · 20 May 2018 at 21:51

woppy101 said:
But your calling everyone who believes in religion and has faith a moron so what’s the difference?

Can't you read ffs? I never said everyone who believes in religion is a moron. I said belief without evidence is moronic. Are you on drugs or something?

Sliver · 22 May 2018 at 10:33

mrk said:
They won't

The difference between now and a million years ahead is that we are in a technological revolution and everything is digitised and will remain so forever more. Back then all they had to go by were ancient texts written by man and many things had yet to be discovered or common principles established and accepted.

All intelligent life on (or from) Earth will know what Humans used to be like in history.

I disagree.

Sliver · 22 May 2018 at 12:50

Sliver said:
I disagree.

antijoke said:
Can't see how you can disagree with him unless the digital age gets wiped out.

Well that's your problem. I disagree. Deal with it.