Euro 2012 Qualifiers 12/10/10 **Spoilers**

Fair result. Fair play to Montenegro they got what they came for, its up to England to Break them down. We just have NO players with a ounce of creative skill to break a team like that down.

Was Wiltshire injured? I'm a Spurs fan but must admit he is going to be a quality player for Arsenal and England. Montenegro were offering little offensive play bar that cracking shot, and it was set up perfect for an attacking midfielder.
 
That was pain full. Rooney looked like a spoilt brat who toys had since left the pram. Some of the others didn't seem that interested.

Feel sorry for the suckers that paid good money to go up and watch.
 
I'd have thought tonight, a home game against a team that was going to park the bus, would have been perfect for Wilshere to make his debut.

I just can't get over how terrible it was. There was barely a clear chance! I don't even know why I'm surprised after the World Cup..
 
Davies actually did half decent when he came on. Pretty much did as well as any other player on the bloody pitch, atleast he won a few headers.

England are in a dire situation when Barry and Glen Johnson keep getting picked after a string of shocking performances.
 
It's high time we just forgot about this generation of players they simply aren't good enough to win anything.

our last good generation was 1990.
 
I was thinking Scotland really playing their hearts out, back in at 2-2 with Spain(albeit with some crap players playing for them but enough of their top players for it to be impressive) and England 0-0 with Montenegro, it suddenly dawned on me how it could get worse, no, not conceding but that we might actually bring on Davies. Then I flicked back to ITV again and see we've stooped even lower(literally) and brought on SWP.

THe first few games since the world cup were not remotely encouraging, it was a very average team beating very very bad teams quite easily and being flattered, Montenegro are FAR from good, but they are decent enough to make England look every bit as average as they are.

Why people expect a veteran manager whose completely set in his ways, whose been fired from Real for playing insipid boring football, to manage to dramatically change his style after the world cup is beyond me.

He showed what he could produce at the world cup, he's not a fresh faced manager with time to change and the willingness, and drive, he's pretty much at the end of his career, he's never once shown an ounce of trying to get his team playing non defensive rubbish football. The idea he could turn England around is laughable, the last few games, we could have had Capello, McClown, Wrighty or Karen Brady, we'd have beaten them easily.


Johnson and Johnson, the chronically injured Ferdy, Barry, Gerrard, Rooney, Crouch shouldn't be starting and most shouldn't be in the squad. Ferdy should be in the squad but frankly he should be given a break, allowed to get some games for UTD and attempt to stay fit for a couple months before we start to rely on him again. DOes Rooney even need to get better than he is? He's playing utter crap got a new contract for more money at Utd while playing crap and continues to get like 50-100k appearances fee's as he continues to be picked for England, Johnson/Gerrard much the same, those three might improve if anyone dared to drop the lazy pratts and stop paying them so much to be crap. Barry is simple crap, always will be crap and has never been anything but mostly crap, how we continue to pick him I don't know.

The defensive midfielder half this nation see's Barry as, has seen 4 years of Lampard being played as DM and now Gerrard being played as DM, why?

Do we want to go into the Euro's with an untested back pair because we can't assume that a chronically injured pair of unavailable defenders will continue to be so? Ledly/Rio even being considered for the first team spot was ridiculous, Ledly should never have made the squad and we should have been practicing for a year without Rio involved.
 
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