European court: You are allowed to resell your steam games

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Omg is this the beginning of the end..

http://www.lo-ping.org/2012/07/03/eu-court-ruling-allows-for-re-sale-of-used-games-by-end-users-you/

Had a game gathering dust on your shelf or taking space on your hard drive? Living in fear of copyright rulings as of late that’s seemingly brought the hammer down on anyone and everyone? Well quiver in fear no longer…at least if you live in Europe.

A recent ruling by the Court of Justice of the European Union has officially stated that “an author of software cannot oppose the resale of his ‘used’ licences allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet”. In essence, it is now illegal in Europe for companies to try to stop you from selling your used digitally distributed software.

As for what qualifies as “used”? Well, the ruling pretty much covers that as well:

The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale.

And that is that. After a company has their first sale, they can’t do anything else about it. This step is huge in the digital distribution sense. You are now officially allowed to sell your Steam / Origin / GoG games and whatever…if you live in Europe.

Not to ignore the elephant in the room, this obviously flies in the face of EULAs signed by end-users on their part agreeing that they would not take part in exactly this. However, repeated precedent has shown that EULAs hold no water against actual laws. For if you agree to an EULA that is contradictory to European law, that point of the EULA is void.

On the other side, this brings up another argument that could be brought up: At the time of the agreement, it could be stated that the end-user agreed that the EULA was NOT contradictory to EU law. It is NOW contradictory, but not when the contract was originally agreed upon. It could also be argued that the companies don’t have to support EU law because (for the most part) they’re not located within the EU. And as far as US is concerned, these companies are the complete opposite of MegaUpload. Which makes the likelihood of extradition extraordinarily low.

On the OTHER other side, As long as these companies sell their product within the EU, they fall under EU commercial law. Many will see this as a plain fact and simple to understand. They’ll rationalize that if these companies don’t want to deal with it, they would have to stop to selling to the EU completely. [Protip: This likely won't happen.]

After all, here’s the magical phrase in the ruling that makes any and all EULA and EU law conflicts hopefully go the way of the dodo:

“Therefore, even if the licence agreement prohibits a further transfer, the rightholder can no longer oppose the resale of that copy. “

So expect some overhauls in a handful of Terms of Service agreements soon. And hopefully some fancy new licence-transfer features as well. Here, have another quote:

“Therefore the new acquirer of the user licence, such as a customer of UsedSoft, may, as a lawful acquirer of the corrected and updated copy of the computer program concerned, download that copy from the copyright holder’s website.”

This means Steam, GOG, Origin, et al., NEEDS to supply a way to transfer the ‘right to download the game’ to the proper party. Whether this feature will include a nominal fee or not remains to be seen. Don’t be surprised if it does; the potential revenue to be made there is astounding. Even if the fee is something around ten cents and it’s Euro counterpart, the volume alone could net Gabe and company quadrillions of dollars. Gorillians even.

Whether we’ll see the US following suit remains to be seen. Since most recent copyright defense actions have originated from the states, expect any adaptation to be at a snail’s pace at best.

Edit : Google Translate Article replaced with full English Version
 
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Read the article thats exactly the ruling - DL services will have to change their T&Cs.

I have read the article.
Even with a change in T&C you still need a service to facilitate it.
You can't magically remove a game from Steam and sell it, you can't take your Assassins Creed 2 retail disk and sell it as no one can use it.
 
I have read the article.
Even with a change in T&C you still need a service to facilitate it.
You can't magically remove a game from Steam and sell it, you can't take your Assassins Creed 2 retail disk and sell it as no one can use it.

you maybe missed this bit...

This means Steam, GOG, Origin, et al., NEEDS to supply a way to transfer the ‘right to download the game’ to the proper party. Whether this feature will include a nominal fee or not remains to be seen. Don’t be surprised if it does; the potential revenue to be made there is astounding. Even if the fee is something around ten cents and it’s Euro counterpart, the volume alone could net Gabe and company quadrillions of dollars. Gorillians even.
 
I didn't read the last few lines :p
Personally not a fan of the second hand market, it'll be bad for DD, why buy a new copy when you can get a second hand copy cheap? (Given it's digital, there's no difference whatsoever)
Can imagine that revenue not going to publishers/developers is going to be pretty high.
 
I doubt this ruling will make any difference to Steam. As someone on the Steam forum said:

You aren't buying a license to play a game on Steam, you are simply accessing a subscription to that game that you paid for with a one time fee. It is all laid out clearly in the Steam Subscriber Agreement.

Valve very carefully worded the terms of their service to allow them complete control over how you access your games.

http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/
 
I doubt this ruling will make any difference to Steam. As someone on the Steam forum said:



http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

Yeah this is what I though, you don't actually own your games on steam which is a pity.


Also unless Valve implemented a system by which you could trade the game in your library to the person directly for funds which would probably never happen, the chaos that would ensue from most people using paypal and getting chargebacks would be hilarious.
 
Does this sitpulate what can be charged to transfer a game?

LOL if they just charge the normal RRP.

And as already pointed out, you subscribe to games on Steam.

(Pictures Gabe with his pants down mooning at Brussels).

This would suck for Indie developers.

Lets be honest, this would suck for smaller studios, big time.

I for one do not care about selling my games anyway, as a lifelong PC gamer, the second hand market has never been something I have had to worry about.
 
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This is good for the consumer as how many times have you bought a game on PC to find its a broken mess & does not even work properly (ubisoft dumped Ghost Recon onto PC last week in that state).

It would force PC games to ship only when ready and the downside is it would also slow down the number of new releases as some publishers/developers would think twice as they release broken games to save QA time/budget :rolleyes:
 
I doubt this ruling will make any difference to Steam. As someone on the Steam forum said:



http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

As for what qualifies as “used”? Well, the ruling pretty much covers that as well:

The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale.

And that is that. After a company has their first sale, they can’t do anything else about it. This step is huge in the digital distribution sense. You are now officially allowed to sell your Steam / Origin / GoG games and whatever…if you live in Europe.
 
You are now officially allowed to sell your Steam / Origin / GoG games and whatever…if you live in Europe.

LOL - Good luck with that.

I feel sorry for support staff around the world getting an avalanche of emails from angry european nerds telling them to give a game to their mate.

AGAIN, think of the smaller, independent developers who sell their games for £3 :(

Like the European parliament has ANY understanding of digital distribution?

This thing will have that many loopholes it will be hillarious.
 
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There should be a proper market for second hand PC games, I couldn't be bothered selling them on ebay and going to the post office to post them anymore so if my brother doesn't want them they all go to waste, and I have loads of them.

There should be a way to pass on the fun to someone else who can't afford to buy all games new. It’s not like I’m expecting a lot for them just more than the derisory €2-3 that the only dodgy shop in Dublin that takes them offers for them at present.
 
So what about online multiplayer, do the stats reset (people could abuse this), do you have no online access on the game? Do you get a new username in online games?
 
So what about online multiplayer, do the stats reset (people could abuse this), do you have no online access on the game? Do you get a new username in online games?

Such things cost money and who do we think will end up paying in the long run?

Keep things as they are, let the cheapskates by their second hand console games while they still can.
 
I don't see a problem with a second hand market and dont understand why developers have been allowed to effectively remove it over years with activations, etc. Everything in the world apart from software has a "used" value. Imagine not being able to sell your PC components just because ATI want people to buy new instead of used, or if cars couldnt be sold as the manufacturers want to keep selling new ones.

Why should the games industry be any different to 99% of the rest of the world?
 
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