European Grand Prix 2010, Valencia Street Circuit - Race 9/19

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TV times:
Valencia, 25-27 June

Friday 25 June
Practice one: 0855-1035, BBC Red Button/online
Practice two: 1255-1435, BBC Red Button/online

Saturday 26 June
Practice three: 0955-1105, BBC Red Button/online
Qualifying: 1210-1420, BBC One/online and BBC Radio 5 live sport extra/online

Sunday 27 June

Race: 1210-1515, BBC One/online and BBC Radio 5 live/online


Standings:
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Track:

Red Bull Racing's Mark Webber takes us on a lap of the Formula One street circuit in Valencia, scene of the upcoming European Grand Prix.

Track Diagram
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Circuit information
Length: 5.44km
Race distance: 57 laps / 310.08km

Full throttle: 59%
Top speed: 306kph
Longest flat-out section: 13s / 930m
Right/left-hand corner: 13/12

Tyre wear: medium
Brake wear: medium
Downforce level: high
Gearshifts per lap: 74

Strategy

2010 tyre compounds: medium and super-soft
2009 tyre compounds: soft and super-soft
2008 tyre compounds: soft and super-soft

Fuel use per lap: 2.536kg
Pit lane time loss: 12.7s (source: Williams)


Europe preview quotes - Lotus, Force India, Williams, HRT & more
After the streets of Montreal’s Ile Notre Dame, Formula One racing heads to the streets of Valencia. But in place of the Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve’s high-speed, low-downforce layout, come the Spanish track’s demanding twists and turns. There are a total of 25 corners (11 left and 14 right), which test the drivers to the maximum. They and senior team personnel look ahead to the forthcoming European Grand Prix…


Europe - Team Preview
Bridgestone
Cosworth

McLaren
Sauber
Mercedes
Ferrari Not uploaded yet
Red Bull Not uploaded yet
Williams
Renault Not uploaded yet
Force India
Toro Rosso Not uploaded yet
Lotus Not uploaded yet
HRT
Virgin Not uploaded yet


Classic F1
No classic f1 this week



Technical Changes - Canada Grand Prix
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Weather Forecast
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After rather dull races for the past two years, I'm sure many fans would crave for a spell of wet running to enliven the spectacle at Valencia's street circuit.

However, dry or mostly dry conditions are expected across each day for this year's event, with a generally low (<20%) chance of showers during the periods of track action. This potential for showers broadly increases towards Sunday with destabilization expanding eastwards into Mediterranean coastal districts, as a thermal low develops across inland Spain. It'll start to deliver some hefty showers and thunderstorms inland as the weekend progresses, but the precipitation signal from various model ensembles remains low for Valencia itself.

Some very warm / hot conditions will greet the teams each day as temperatures readily climb to the high 20's C; track temperatures doubtless up into 40'sC+. Winds will remain mostly light during the morning, but with moderate afternoon sea breezes developing.

In turn, these sea breezes are very likely to offer a convergence zone 'strip' inland where the towering cumulus clouds will tend to grow and offer an increased shower potential by evening. It's not impossible that some evening and overnight showers or thunderstorms could appear over Valencia, albeit a low point probability. Notably, the UK Met Office's MOGREPS-15 ensemble modelling offers around a 40% chance of precipitation at some stage across Valencia and environs during the weekend. All the NWP products agree on a shower potential further inland, especially later into the weekend; nonethless the likelihood of coastal showers during the day is small.



News






The track and TV coverage starts

Technical changes Europe


Europe preview quotes - Virgin, Lotus, Force India, Williams & more
After the streets of Montreal’s Ile Notre Dame, Formula One racing heads to the streets of Valencia. But in place of the Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve’s high-speed, low-downforce layout, come the Spanish track’s demanding twists and turns. There are a total of 25 corners (11 left and 14 right), which test the drivers to the maximum. They and senior team personnel look ahead to the forthcoming European Grand Prix…

FIA Thursday press conference - Europe
Drivers: Jaime Alguersuari (Toro Rosso), Fernando Alonso (Ferrari), Pedro de la Rosa (BMW Sauber), Vitantonio Liuzzi (Force India) and Vitaly Petrov (Renault).

Practice 1

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Highlights - European GP first practice
Nico Rosberg sets the pace in first practice for the European Grand Prix in Valencia ahead of the McLaren's of Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button.

Iplayer -
Formula 1 - 2010 - The European Grand Prix - Practice One

Live coverage of the first practice session from the European Grand Prix in Valencia as the McLaren- Mercedes and Red Bull-Renault teams battle it out for the top spot.

Practice One - Rosberg and Mercedes in front
Nico Rosberg pipped the two McLarens for the fastest time in Valencia on Friday morning, stopping the clocks for Mercedes GP with 1m 41.175s. That was 0.164s faster than Lewis Hamilton’s 1m 41.339s, and 0.208s better than Jenson Button’s 1m 41.383s.

Practice 2

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Iplayer -
Formula 1 - 2010 - The European Grand Prix - Practice Two

Live coverage of the second practice session from the European Grand Prix in Valencia. Things are getting tense as the top three drivers battle it out for the top spot.

Practice Two - Alonso pips Vettel in Valencia
Fernando Alonso made best use of Ferrari’s new aero package to set the fastest lap in the second practice session in Valencia on Friday afternoon. The local hero’s 1m 39.283s best was 0.056s faster than Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel who recorded 1m 39.339s, and 0.144s ahead of the German’s team mate Mark Webber on 1m 39.427s.


Practice 3

Qaulifying

Race

Standings
 
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I doubt there will be rain.

It is likely to be in the evening not at race time and even then it is only 30% chance.

Lewis and Button are so lucky getting to drive that car.

I think RBR are stuffed, I think over the next few races Mclaren and Ferrari will over take them on performance. They had to capitalise early which they have not and they still have reliability problems. Especially with Ferrari bringing RBR esq exhausts and other items this weekend and McLarens are due at the next race.
 
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Right now I have bodged internet back together. Gardener cut through virgin cable and they can't fix it till Monday.

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Highlights - European GP first practice
Nico Rosberg sets the pace in first practice for the European Grand Prix in Valencia ahead of the McLaren's of Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button.

Iplayer -
Formula 1 - 2010 - The European Grand Prix - Practice One

Live coverage of the first practice session from the European Grand Prix in Valencia as the McLaren- Mercedes and Red Bull-Renault teams battle it out for the top spot.

Practice One - Rosberg and Mercedes in front
Nico Rosberg pipped the two McLarens for the fastest time in Valencia on Friday morning, stopping the clocks for Mercedes GP with 1m 41.175s. That was 0.164s faster than Lewis Hamilton’s 1m 41.339s, and 0.208s better than Jenson Button’s 1m 41.383s.


secls.jpg


Iplayer -
Formula 1 - 2010 - The European Grand Prix - Practice Two

Live coverage of the second practice session from the European Grand Prix in Valencia. Things are getting tense as the top three drivers battle it out for the top spot.

Practice Two - Alonso pips Vettel in Valencia
Fernando Alonso made best use of Ferrari’s new aero package to set the fastest lap in the second practice session in Valencia on Friday afternoon. The local hero’s 1m 39.283s best was 0.056s faster than Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel who recorded 1m 39.339s, and 0.144s ahead of the German’s team mate Mark Webber on 1m 39.427s.


Europe preview quotes - Virgin, Lotus, Force India, Williams & more
After the streets of Montreal’s Ile Notre Dame, Formula One racing heads to the streets of Valencia. But in place of the Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve’s high-speed, low-downforce layout, come the Spanish track’s demanding twists and turns. There are a total of 25 corners (11 left and 14 right), which test the drivers to the maximum. They and senior team personnel look ahead to the forthcoming European Grand Prix…
 
yeah massive upgrade for silverstone, including rbr exhaust. which some reckon is worth upto 0.5 seconds. We will see if it is any where near that with Ferrari using it this weekend.
 
f-duct is different though as you can't change the chassis, so teams are having to retro fit it, in very odd and reduced capacities. where rbr exhausts and the like should be fairly straight forward.

Also big updates may require a change in car set up, which is why they might struggle at teh first race with lack of real data.
 
I don;'t see why it is after race investigation.

That is an easy one to rule, were they over the delta time or not.

yet another ***** up by FIA, regardless of what they decide.
 
I'm not saying that Heikki was totally not at fault. He wasn't. .

I can't see how anyone can blame Heki, it wasn't his fault at all. It was just a racing incident. However webber is well aware of the speed difference and braking difference and so should have been more cautious.
But it is 100% no ones fault, just one of those things.
 
Haven't read all of thread, been watching cricket in the sunny sun sun.

But 5 seconds. where did they pluck that from?

20 seconds for a drive through, 30 seconds for a 10seconds stop penalty or grid places.

5 seconds is just so random.
 
5 seconds seems okay to me.l.

penalties are usually in line with time that would have been lost in race.

Which is roughly 20seconds for a drive through.

Where did they pluck 5 seconds from. rules are rules.

They really didn't deserve any penalty, this whole minimum inlap time thing is crap, Jenson for instance was on a flat out lap, and the safteycar was deployed as he was coming into the last corner, what do they expect him to do stop in the middle of the track to avoid going under that time, its pathetic.

it's never been a problem before, so I assume where they are on teh lap is taken into consideration. The system knows where every car is and what they are doing.

it's actually quite a sensible rule, it means drivers can't go flat out until they hit the SC
 
In general I think you are right - but because of the very short pitlane in Valencia I think its more 10-15s at todays race - which pans out if you check out LH's drive through

I think Martin mentioned it in commentary also

even so, that doesn't correlate with 5 seconds.

Can't believe everyone keeps commenting about Hamilton. He broke the rule and got a drive through. If he didn't hesitate he would have not broken any rules.

However

the 9 cars did brake the rules, then FIA made 2 mistakes.
1) why was it investigated after the race, absolutely no need for this. They did not need to check the cars or anything, it did not happen in the last few laps.
2) the punishment should be the same as in the race.
 
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