European Grand Prix 2011, Valencia Street Circuit - Race 8/19

Glaucus · 26 Jun 2011 at 13:02

Oh nice graphic, I haven't seen that before. Starting tyres, nice touch.

Glaucus · 26 Jun 2011 at 20:33

Had to to a picnic on lap two, just stuck it on now.

Glaucus · 26 Jun 2011 at 22:42

Yeah mclaren just struggled in every aspect. Yet another great drive by vettle.

Totally agree with DC, starting to understand tyres and strategy and the more they understand the less mix up we will see.

Glaucus · 27 Jun 2011 at 13:47

Spunkey said:
I think if RB still have a good margin in qualifying, and win the race at Silverstone, McLaren and Ferrari will forget developing this years car and move on to next years'.

Im not sure. There's still 2nd place. Where RBR are in the best situation is they are still ahead can abandon this car, still win and develop next years even more. Even if mclaren/Ferrari catch up they are still going to get enough points to win.

Glaucus · 27 Jun 2011 at 15:47

deuse said:
The old 2003 system would be best now the cars don't break so much

1st: 10

2nd: 8

3rd: 6

4th: 5

5th: 4

6th: 3

7th: 2

8th: 1

or even better do the same as Nascar do with there system.

We all complained then that there was not enough to encourage going for the win.
There is nothing wrong with the point scoring system this year, it's the best one we've had for ages.
What people need to realise is this is f1 it is very rare to get a close championship and as I have posted before championships are very clear cut from early on.

Glaucus · 27 Jun 2011 at 15:59

Yep the stats in wiki are good

Most wins in a season

Code:

Driver	Season	Entries	Wins	Percentage
1	 Michael Schumacher	2004	18	13	72%
2	 Michael Schumacher	2002	17	11	65%
3	 Nigel Mansell	1992	16	9	56%
 Michael Schumacher	1995	17	9	53%
 Michael Schumacher	2000	17	9	53%
 Michael Schumacher	2001	17	9	53%
7	 Ayrton Senna	1988	16	8	50%
 Michael Schumacher	1994	16	8	50%
 Damon Hill	1996	16	8	50%
 Mika Häkkinen	1998	16	8	50%

Highest percentage of wins in a season

Code:

Driver	Season	Races	Wins	Percentage
1	 Alberto Ascari	1952	8	6	75%
2	 Michael Schumacher	2004	18	13	72%
3	 Jim Clark	1963	10	7	70%
4	 Juan Manuel Fangio	1954	9	6	67%
5	 Michael Schumacher	2002	17	11	65%
6	 Jim Clark	1965	10	6	60%
7	 Juan Manuel Fangio	1955	7	4	57%
8	 Nigel Mansell	1992	16	9	56%
9	 Alberto Ascari	1953	9	5	56%
10	 Jackie Stewart	1969	11	6	54%
 Jackie Stewart	1971	11	6	54%

Glaucus · 27 Jun 2011 at 18:58

Race - Vettel wins from Alonso in Valencia
Sebastian Vettel scored his sixth victory of the season in Valencia on Sunday, without anyone getting anywhere close to his Red Bull.

Formula 1 highlights - European Grand Prix
Sebastian Vettel controls the race from start to finish to win the European Grand Prix in Valencia, ahead of Ferrari's Fernando Alonso and Red Bull team-mate Mark Webber.

Glaucus · 27 Jun 2011 at 19:00

Glaucus · 28 Jun 2011 at 12:44

CaptainRAVE said:
McLaren don't have much to lose anymore, they may aswell take the gamble.

They should at least take the gamble on one car IMO. At least in practise. Stick the updates on Friday fp1 and do a one hour stint and see what happens may eaves pit stops to change some settings

Glaucus · 28 Jun 2011 at 13:30

And they have a great margin ATM. Did they even run it in fp1 to gain data?

Glaucus · 28 Jun 2011 at 18:31

sunama said:
OK here is food for thought.

Do we think that Vettel is likely to break any of MSc's records?

Yes

He's already youngest world champion and in the top 10 for others.

Glaucus · 29 Jun 2011 at 12:51

clv101 said:
Eh? Where's the contradiction? Who's talking about the title? Not me.

My point is that whilst Vettel is on target to beat Schumacher's 72%, Button's season shows how fortunes can change. Button went from the same 75% that Vettel has now, to finish the season with just 6/17 wins or 35%.

However brawn GP had no funding and no upgrades, so it's a little difference.

Glaucus · 29 Jun 2011 at 12:53

Skeeter said:
Vettel will win this championship because of his performances on Saturdays. Nobody knows if he is a good fighter in a race or not, as he simply hasn't had to prove it. He qualifies at the front, and then spends Sunday afternoon staying there. His ability to nail Lap 1 while others are fighting for position means he has been in control of almost every race from start to finish.

It would be interesting to see him in a rubbish car just like what Lewis had, Lewis managed to haul the the god awful mclaren up to the front end was it 2009? Would be interesting to see how vetttle compared. It's the same as Alonso who can haul a crap car above what it's capable of.

Glaucus · 4 Jul 2011 at 20:23

It's insane the number these two designers have won

Newey

1992 - Williams FW14B
1993 - Williams FW15C
1994 - Williams FW16
1996 - Williams FW18
1997 - Williams FW19
1998 - McLaren MP4/13
2010 - Red Bull RB6

Byrne
1995 Benetton B195
1999 Ferrari F399
2000 Ferrari F1-2000
2001 Ferrari F2001
2002 Ferrari F2002
2003 Ferrari F2003-GA
2004 Ferrari F2004

Just shows how predictable f1 is, anyone have a complete list of head designers and constructor ships. I see no reasons why RBR and vettle can't be dominant like those stats.

Glaucus · 5 Jul 2011 at 14:13

JRS said:
If you want similarly insane figures, look at the record of one Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman....

Yeah he was class, but can't find the actual stats. Lotus won 7, was he head designer for all of it, or just the founder? Or was it more blurred back in those days which I think is the most likely.

Still can't find championships vs chief designer list. Can anyone else?