I think there is a rather loud tiny minority, mostly religiously motivated, who get significant air time to give the counter argument. In reality, most people favour assisted dying, and I hope that’s reflected if there is a vote.
Euthanasia need to be considered in UK?
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I think there is a rather loud tiny minority, mostly religiously motivated, who get significant air time to give the counter argument. In reality, most people favour assisted dying, and I hope that’s reflected if there is a vote.
It's that and the people who are paranoid that allowing the terminally ill the chance to end their suffering and go out with some dignity, will lead to wholesale culling of the old and sick and that anyone who goes to the doctor feeling a bit depressed will be sent to the suicide clinic.
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Yet there is precious little evidence of this from other countries with legalised euthanasia. Why should Britain be worse?
I wasn't there, I'm not saying either. I'm saying this doesn't happen today in modern clinical care.
Have you met Britain?
Soldato
Cynical little digs at Britain but happy to live and work here may even have been born here, but if you don't like it, you know what you can do..
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Yes, it's one of the greatest countries in the world.
It was (mostly) in jest.
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I doubt a modern clinical setting would have the balls to give the monarch an overdose of morphine and cocaine to ensure his death could be reported in the morning papers instead of the less classy evening rags, either
Ok cool, wasn’t accusing you of anything, just wondering about my dad’s experience with his father.
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not sure if people saw this but sounds relavant :
www.theguardian.com
i think it should be an option for people. better thn hearing about older people being left to starve naturally..
i can see a number of people going for the option of their own accord, people who have been abused, people with no hope, people who have no chance of recovery. i dont think it should be an easy option or an easy out though which is what some people will see it as.
Dutch woman, 29, granted euthanasia approval on grounds of mental suffering
Zoraya ter Beek, who has chronic depression, anxiety, trauma and unspecified personality disorder, expected to end her life soon
www.theguardian.com
i think it should be an option for people. better thn hearing about older people being left to starve naturally..
i can see a number of people going for the option of their own accord, people who have been abused, people with no hope, people who have no chance of recovery. i dont think it should be an easy option or an easy out though which is what some people will see it as.
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What relevance do you see it as having?
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not sure if people saw this but sounds relavant :
Dutch woman, 29, granted euthanasia approval on grounds of mental suffering
Zoraya ter Beek, who has chronic depression, anxiety, trauma and unspecified personality disorder, expected to end her life soon
i think it should be an option for people. better thn hearing about older people being left to starve naturally..
i can see a number of people going for the option of their own accord, people who have been abused, people with no hope, people who have no chance of recovery. i dont think it should be an easy option or an easy out though which is what some people will see it as.
No hope of what? I have little hope of winning the lottery for example..
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Some similalry bad cases in Canada. A number of disabled people in Canada have complained a bout a culture of encouraging the old or disabled to kill themselves. It absolutely is a slippery slope and in Canada 4% euthanase apparently which doesn't seem right to me. There will always be another exception and another, rare and only for the terminally ill in pain becomes common and for anyone that is a burden.not sure if people saw this but sounds relavant :
Dutch woman, 29, granted euthanasia approval on grounds of mental suffering
Zoraya ter Beek, who has chronic depression, anxiety, trauma and unspecified personality disorder, expected to end her life soon
i think it should be an option for people. better thn hearing about older people being left to starve naturally..
i can see a number of people going for the option of their own accord, people who have been abused, people with no hope, people who have no chance of recovery. i dont think it should be an easy option or an easy out though which is what some people will see it as.
Caporegime
What is bad about that case?
Why is 4% bad? Consider that the leading cause of death in the UK, up to 2018, was Alzheimer's and Dementia at 12.7% of all deaths. Isn't people choosing a dignified death rather than having a slow, dreadful death a good thing?
Soldato
sounds low to me, the most common causes of death are a miserable way to go, let them do it on their own terms
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There is already evidence in several countries that there is a culture of pressurising healthy people to consider euthanasia. I find that sufficiently worrying that I don't wish to import it into to the UK. I mean plainly it will cut health service costs and improve pension balance sheets so not all bad news
Soldato
Remember the other side of the coin - big pharma just needs people to be sick but not dead for as long as possible for maximum profit - and politicians get lobbied big time so I'm not sure we can even say that politicians think cutting health service costs is a good thing. I'd fully expect the cost of ending a life (paid to big pharma ofc) to at least cover what the alive old person would have otherwise spent on drugs.I mean plainly it will cut health service costs and improve pension balance sheets so not all bad news
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@throwaway4372 It's a matter of conscience I and others have shared our concerns why we don't support it. I understand why many support euthanasia. I don't think people who support it are necessarily bad people just because they don't share my view on the matter and I will leave it there for the moment.
Any law needs a provision so people can sign up early, so if they loose their mind, become a vegetable etc then they can be dispatched with dignity.