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To add to my posit yesterday about the pre-registered bargains out there.

Well if you fancy something a bit more premium, there are a bunch of sub-2000 mile ex-demonstrator Audi etron GTs on Autotrader for under £60k on a 24 plate.

You could probably pick up a new one for £81-£84k if it was in stock. But those ex-demo cars are setting the price ceiling for the used market, anything older/higher milage must be priced below. There must be some bargains out there somewhere, but also some serious depreciation.
 
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commute MPG - If you commute into Cambridge at the wrong time of day you halve your MPG and >double your time - you either leave the house just after 7am or abandon using any car per se,
like bike in summertime - some congestion on cycle tracks too

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m4rmite said:
Same on ice
2 guys at work
28k new , 3 years later 12k
Nissan juke and Peugeot 2008.
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they worked in the purchasing/negotiating department & payed rrp
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lordrobs said:
Fair enough, you've obviously done your sums.

I was just pointing out that in a similar car with mixed use £250 in fuel a month works out as 21.5k miles a year.

Or to put it another way if you are only doing 10k and spending that much then she has the world's least economical 1.0 TSI Golf at about 22 mpg.

Anyway, I'm sure you just summarised your numbers for the sake of your post as you've clearly done you sums :)
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Traffic absolutely destroys fuel economy and if that's all you're sat in then your average is destined to be low. If you're a carpet salesman and as a percentage of your driving your time in crawling traffic is low then sure you might get close to the claimed extra-urban numbers. That isn't an apples-for-apples comparison. Nobody anywhere is getting close to extra-urban efficiency numbers while sat in rush hour city traffic. This is very basic stuff...
 
DRZ said:
Traffic absolutely destroys fuel economy and if that's all you're sat in then your average is destined to be low. If you're a carpet salesman and as a percentage of your driving your time in crawling traffic is low then sure you might get close to the claimed extra-urban numbers. That isn't an apples-for-apples comparison. Nobody anywhere is getting close to extra-urban efficiency numbers while sat in rush hour city traffic. This is very basic stuff...
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Yeah, I get that. Likewise no one in a 1.0 TSI Golf is getting 22 mpg over a 25 mile commute unless that commute is taking them over 2 hours.

Whatever the case, 25 mile crawling through traffic each way sounds brutal. Hopefully the ID3 will make it a little less arduous.
 
I'm now debating whether to go for a megane or a kona. Both are priced about the same. I was set on the megane initially but the kona seems pretty decent too.

Spose I should try and check them out in person.
 
Simon said:
It will as active cruise is amazing on the be meb cars
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Also, there can be no denying that an electric drivetrain is better in traffic.

Apologies if it seemed like I was trying to rain on your new purchase DRZ. Wasn't the intention but it certainly came across that way.
 
lordrobs said:
Yeah, I get that. Likewise no one in a 1.0 TSI Golf is getting 22 mpg over a 25 mile commute unless that commute is taking them over 2 hours.

Whatever the case, 25 mile crawling through traffic each way sounds brutal. Hopefully the ID3 will make it a little less arduous.
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You’re wrong, and it is as simple as that.

I’ve done the same commute in the M2 and got teens and in the McLaren and got single digits.

Your estimation of how traffic affects economy is miles off.
 
Hedge said:
I'm now debating whether to go for a megane or a kona. Both are priced about the same. I was set on the megane initially but the kona seems pretty decent too.

Spose I should try and check them out in person.
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Yeah one more a hatch and the other a small SUV so they aren't quite same same
 
chanjy said:
Yeah one more a hatch and the other a small SUV so they aren't quite same same
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Yeah agreed they aren't same. But the price is similar so since I don't really car about what size car I end up with, I'd just want the best bang for buck :)
 
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Journey said:
I see the eNY1 offers are coming back again.

www.newcars.honda.wales

e:Ny1 Offers Page

e:Ny1 Offers Page
www.newcars.honda.wales www.newcars.honda.wales

@Firegod did you already get your sorted? 0%, £0 down, and 48 months PCP from £259. The also includes 5 years warranty, 5 years servicing, and 5 years free roadside assistance.

Oh and @danlightbulb could it be big enough for you, certainly cheap!
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@Journey yeah all sorted in the end. £235 on the Advance trim with the additional obsidian blue metallic paint and HR1812 alloy wheels (oh and car mats lol).
 
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ICDP said:
Trigger, is that you?

I had this TV for 15 years, it’s only had 3 new control boards and 4 new screen replacements… but it’s still the same TV. :p

You stated You will avoid buying any EV all your life… then used an argument that equally applies to modern ICE cars as well. Expensive parts.

So why is that an anti EV thing?
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I was thinking of Trig's broom :cry:

The bottom line is maintaining what you're familiar with. I would rather cough up more money on what i knew was broken than get screwed by manufacturers to pay for their specialist electricians with specialist tools so i can't do the job myself. There are pretty much no serviceable EV's on the market (that i can find at least). Not to sound like a redneck but THEY'RE NOT LETTING US FIX OUR OWN SHIYET!!!111
 
Evatron said:
I was thinking of Trig's broom :cry:

The bottom line is maintaining what you're familiar with. I would rather cough up more money on what i knew was broken than get screwed by manufacturers to pay for their specialist electricians with specialist tools so i can't do the job myself. There are pretty much no serviceable EV's on the market (that i can find at least). Not to sound like a redneck but THEY'RE NOT LETTING US FIX OUR OWN SHIYET!!!111
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That doesn't even make sense. Are you saying you can fix an ICE car 100%?
 
I can't think of a single EV that is any less DIY serviceable than a relatively modern ICE car. The only difference is the number of parts you can realistically expect to replace on an EV drive train over the lifetime of the car is a tiny fraction of that of an ICE car. Everything else is basically the same, its just a car.
 
EVs just need a lot less fixing. The only items that need regular service are the air filters for the cabin, the brakes, and the tyres. It's not like you need oil changes, belt changes, etc.
 
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EVs just need a lot less fixing. The only items that need regular service are the air filters for the cabin, the brakes, and the tyres. It's not like you need oil changes, belt changes, etc.
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I’m fully expecting the car to never need brakes in its lifetime. My Insignia estate lasted 75k on the fronts and 100k on the rears so the Polestar should go well beyond double or triple that.
 
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