It is more than relevant, information allows people to make a decision, if the decision is based on crap/made up data then the decision could be wrong. Tell me where are you getting the data that there is no used market for BEV's?
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It is more than relevant, information allows people to make a decision, if the decision is based on crap/made up data then the decision could be wrong. Tell me where are you getting the data that there is no used market for BEV's?
The average life span of an ice car in the UK is about 14 years. I've an older ICE as 2nd car but it's kinda irrelevant to the general market.
Paid for by the people taking the huge hit on new cars. And still the depreciation curve doesn’t stop at 3yrs old.
You are a funny guy. Assume everyone is thick because they don’t agree with you. Shame
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Wasn't so long the market didn't want touch petrol it was only interested in diesel.
Because of BIK. Nothing to do with the power train
even with todays announcement in ev charger infrastructure - the evolution in ev charging rate [800v/solid-state] may accelerate obsolescence/depreciation of old models,
just unattractive for the (less well off) 50% who don't/won't have at home charging
was reading the other day how imbalanced ev ownership is in (posterboy) Norway between rich & poor.
just unattractive for the (less well off) 50% who don't/won't have at home charging
was reading the other day how imbalanced ev ownership is in (posterboy) Norway between rich & poor.
Not really the same though. Dealers were still happy to retail them. Lots of dealers seem very risk adverse when it comes to EV’s.
Again I’m not against EV’s I think they have technical merits in lots of scenarios. I don’t buy the argument that they are more sustainable though.
You read how imbalanced newer cars are between rich and poor and than you think thats news?
How are people buying them if no dealers are selling them...
"...17.8% market share of all new cars registered this year..."
And less than one in five Ev purchases is a private buyer
No regrets. The only issue at the moment is Octopus have installed my Zappi charger but not made the final connection to the meter so I'm stuck charging at 14-23p/kWh at 2.2kW through the granny cable. The engineer was worried the 80A main fuse was not enough. Northern power do not fit higher so I'm not sure what he expects them to do. Octopus have been poor, with complete radio silence since he came a week ago despite emailing and DMing them on twitter. I'll have to ring them tomorrow as it's not good enough.I've read you can bind a button on the wheel to take you to the favourites so you can access the speed limit warning etc quickly and turn it off. Not ideal but I appreciate it's a new addition to all cars now. Can you customise the alert? I know some people were asking if you could set it to 10% higher before it notifies you but never saw an answer.
Is the 190 miles from 100% charge or 80%?Just seen there was another page to the thread and someone already asked that
Any regrets?
Once they actually finish the fitting I'll be on their EV saver tariff so can charge at 6p/kWh and fill the house batteries aswell. It'll be approx. 10x cheaper per mile than the A45.
That's a bit of a self-perpetuating cycle though really.
People don't want to buy them as they think they are a liability.
Which makes the depreciation worse.
Which makes them more of a liability.
Which makes people less willing to buy them.
Which makes the depreciation worse.
Which makes them more of a liability.
Which makes people less willing to buy them.
Which makes the depreciation worse.
Which makes them more of a liability.
Which makes people less willing to buy them.
Which is great news for those of us who don't believe the FUD, because we get cheap second hand cars
That still lose value even second hand ?That's a bit of a self-perpetuating cycle though really.
People don't want to buy them as they think they are a liability.
Which makes the depreciation worse.
Which makes them more of a liability.
Which makes people less willing to buy them.
Which makes the depreciation worse.
Which makes them more of a liability.
Which makes people less willing to buy them.
Which makes the depreciation worse.
Which makes them more of a liability.
Which makes people less willing to buy them.
Which is great news for those of us who don't believe the FUD, because we get cheap second hand cars
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Well they don't drive EVs so they are combustion engine drivers if that's better and I used to be one for nearly 50 years and came out with the same crap until I did my homework.
EV drivers just want to be EV drivers where combustion engine drivers just want to put EV drivers down with mostly myths.
There needs to be choice without one side shouting the other down.
You can't recycle petrol or diesel, more than 95% of a battery is full recyclable materials, the majority of which are valuable minerals. Next you'll be saying aluminium cans aren't sustainable.
It's amazing that people who drive ICE come back with sustainability as an argument when you can't really get any dirtier than ICE. Tell me why is it you think ICE is more sustainable?
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There's been some lively debate tonight with both the ICE camps and BEV camps both making good points, and some not so good ones.
I'm leaning towards a used PHEV as a bridging car
I'm leaning towards a used PHEV as a bridging car
There's been some lively debate tonight with both the ICE camps and BEV camps both making good points, and some not so good ones.
I'm leaning towards a used PHEV as a bridging car
Not really it's the same old tired arguments. If someone doesn't want an EV simply don't buy one.
But why they have to keep posting about something they have no interest baffles me.
The Phev is a mixed bag. Most of them are so compromised small batteries, slow charging, that its not really doing what People think it's doing. But perhaps an EV is a change too far for many people, and PHEV becomes a stepping stone.
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On the sustainability front that’s my specialist area and happy to share as much detail as anyone would like on lifecycle emissions etc.
The TLDR though is EVs are many times more sustainable than combustion cars.
They do still have a significant carbon impact so, from a sustainability perspective it’s far better to have no car, but that isn’t an option for the majority of people.
The TLDR though is EVs are many times more sustainable than combustion cars.
They do still have a significant carbon impact so, from a sustainability perspective it’s far better to have no car, but that isn’t an option for the majority of people.
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