EV general discussion

[Homer-Simpson]

Thanks for the replies everyone, really appreciate it.

Learn the EV side of things before you go putting it in the fake ICE mode

As most have said, get in the habit of just plugging in whenever you get home. Limit charging to 80% unless you need the full 100% the next morning.

I have a feeling I will be overwhelmed by options to start with so will be taking it slow and trying everything out at some point in time

Also download Zapmap and ABRP on your phone, good apps for route mapping and working charge stops until you understand the car range etc. Zapmap is good to locate chargers around you. Also get an electroverse card, that can give you a small discount when public charging, personally i look out for Tesla SC's as they seem to be relatively well priced.

Thanks, got most of them already installed but will take a look at the others now.

What’s is the “new car” then?

As others have correctly said, the Ioniq 5 N

 

[Homer-Simpson]

What's the best place to get a decent, longer charging cable for home charging? I need a longer one so that I can park the ID 7 in a better location on the drive


Any on Amazon? I have a few gift cards to use so would be handy if there's a decent brand on there.


Thanks

I had a similar question and was pointed towards:

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PREMIUM QUALITY Mode 3 EV cables suitable for use at home, work or out and about at GREAT PRICES . EV cable suitable for vehicles with a Type 2 Connector avialable in varying lengths

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Various sizes and cable types to pick from. Seems to be well made too!

 

[Deleted User 298457]

Oddly I've not driven ever EV or ICE ever made. But if one researches those cars up you find many issues with brakes on the ICE versions including recalls. The feedback on those EVs is mostly about soft pedal feel.

I guess if I test drove a car and didn't like something like the brake feel, I wouldn't buy it.

Great post thnx

 

[chanjy]

E2008 and apparently a Mokka. Driven either of those?

We used to have an e208 and it was fine never noticed jerky brakes (unless my wife drove it )

Which actually is more the point, each car has a different level of pedal travel to get to what you like to do and I think mostly it's adjusting to a different car and getting used to the fine tuning of the pedal travel you need rather than an inherent quality of a car's braking itself.

 

[Simon]

I usually go straight over junctions in my born if I’ve driven another car before. (Maybe in jest). I found bedding in the brakes properly helped with some stops in neutral. Also I didn’t test drive mine before ordering it.

Gets to the point made ages ago about adaptive buttons/ipad screens etc. you soon adapt. (Or just complain about change forever).

Rwd interesting with regen as you go from the rear wheels doing the work to the front. So it needs to be smooth transition. Same if ACC brakes hard for traffic, if you don’t trust it and take over breaking there’s some micro second delay where nothing is going on.

 

[lordrobs]

Lets not make a Mokkary out of jpauls observations

First proper cold morning with a plug in car and cabin pre-conditioning was just *chefs kiss*. Before anyone says it I know it isn't a PHEV/EV specific thing but I couldn't justify having an ICE chugging away while I eat my coco pops.

EDIT - Also, not EV I know but if the brakes are anything to go by on my Astra PHEV then I have zero surprise in hearing that they are hard to judge in the Mokka. Second worst thing about it after the steering which was modelled for feel on the original OutRun arcade game.

 

[MrRockliffe]

I had a similar question and was pointed towards:

Mode 3 EV Charging Cable | Type 2 | 32 amp 7.4kW | 1.8 - 30 metres | Single Phase | Green or Black

PREMIUM QUALITY Mode 3 EV cables suitable for use at home, work or out and about at GREAT PRICES . EV cable suitable for vehicles with a Type 2 Connector avialable in varying lengths

ev-extras.com

Various sizes and cable types to pick from. Seems to be well made too!

Thanks for this. They look quite expensive though :/

 

[FerretBoy]

Lets not make a Mokkary out of jpauls observations

First proper cold morning with a plug in car and cabin pre-conditioning was just *chefs kiss*. Before anyone says it I know it isn't a PHEV/EV specific thing but I couldn't justify having an ICE chugging away while I eat my coco pops.

EDIT - Also, not EV I know but if the brakes are anything to go by on my Astra PHEV then I have zero surprise in hearing that they are hard to judge in the Mokka. Second worst thing about it after the steering which was modelled for feel on the original OutRun arcade game.

I have a google calandar specifically for work, homeassistant checks it and defrosts/pre-heats/cools the car (inc seat and stearing wheel) in time to leave, don't even need to put a jacket on. Works flawlessley, just a shame I sometimes need to wipe the headlights if they are frosted over.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Thanks for this. They look quite expensive though :/

£140 for a 10m cable is a good price, there is also a £15 code in the banner for orders over £100.

 

[jpaul]

We used to have an e208 and it was fine never noticed jerky brakes (unless my wife drove it )

Which actually is more the point, each car has a different level of pedal travel to get to what you like to do and I think mostly it's adjusting to a different car and getting used to the fine tuning of the pedal travel you need rather than an inherent quality of a car's braking itself.

like I said taycan blending, at the sacrifice of energy efficiency meant to be a thing - so could imply that motor recovery on braking is less progressive ... even with hire cars I've driven they were not 'drive by wire'
(ie. you have a servo - giving you brake feel) so like loss of hydraulic steering maybe just - what it is
yes some cars brakes noticeably bite .. but you expect some progressive element, not like an - all anchors on moment.
..does appear mokka has permanent magnet motors too which may explain less finesse on the coasting/regen capability - whose level seemed ok.

will have a look later so see how many electrons the car had used for cabin heating, at the time of them giving me the loaner didn't cross my mind why it had been blowing cold air, just assumed guy liked that.

 

[oweneades]

Just had notification from Hypervolt that Intelligent tariff support should be coming to V2 devices by 31st March (email says before then but assume this is the date they are working towards).

Will likely switch to Intelligent Go (from Go) at this point as can then just control it all via the charger and not worry between cars.

Lovely morning of -3 here in Somerset with Defrost on the Ionic putting in the work. One observation I have made however, is that the portion of the screen where the front camera is located doesn't seem to defrost (at least no where near as quickly as the main windscreen), leading to a cacophony of warning bongs when looking to set off. Makes for an interesting addition to the "pre flight checks" already performed on every drive.

Meh, nice and toasty driving off to work so not too bothered.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Taycan doesn't blend anywhere near like other cars, ie my IPACE which is the first EV to do WLTP purely on regen, no friction brakes. They decided limited braking regen as they recognise a performance car with Porsche DNA needs good braking feel!

Stop making stuff up please, how can you have a vaccuum servo on an EV- the industry is moving to Integrated Power Boosters to manage friction and regen. PM motor makes no difference, it doesn't need to worry on single motor cars as its not like you need relucance to the PM motor when you want the other Induction motor doing the work on a 4WD anyway.

 

[MrRockliffe]

£140 for a 10m cable is a good price, there is also a £15 code in the banner for orders over £100.

Cheaper on Amazon though, and probably all made in the same place.


If they can’t even get a compliant cookie policy in place…

 

[jpaul]

Taycan doesn't blend anywhere near like other cars, ie my IPACE which is the first EV to do WLTP purely on regen, no friction brakes. They decided limited braking regen as they recognise a performance car with Porsche DNA needs good braking feel!

I meant it's higher percentage use of friction brakes because of the feel of the real thing - you seem to have inferred the opposite ... campaign for real brakes
...can you elaborate on how the regen braking alone actually modulates the force it applies to car.

I thought pm motors create permanent drag (remembering those from my meccano set) but if you have windings on the rotor and stator, once those are unpowered you freewheel.

e: mokka defrost is incomprehensible went out to the car turned the A/C on max/30C+ and just blew cold (albeit dehumidified) air onto the screen, took ages to clear,
I expected heat ... but you only get that when moving it would appear

 

[Jonnycoupe]

I've just said what happens, i have inferred nothing. The brakes work much like the throttle but in reverse with grades of torque demand. Opposite of acceleration of course being retardation...

I like the idea a rotor is wound aswell as a stator too - where do you get this stuff from? Theres a clue in the name stator. PM makes voltage when you spin them, what you do with that is up to the design - putting into a load cell will make drag. Put the meccano down and get some Duplo

 

[lordrobs]

e: mokka defrost is incomprehensible went out to the car turned the A/C on max/30C+ and just blew cold (albeit dehumidified) air onto the screen, took ages to clear,
I expected heat ... but you only get that when moving it would appear

Did you actually start the car though? i.e. foot on brake and press start?

If you just hit the start button only the 12V side would have been active, you need the HV contactors closed for heating as it will be powered by the HV battery, as would the AC.

 

[pastymuncher]

What's the best place to get a decent, longer charging cable for home charging? I need a longer one so that I can park the ID 7 in a better location on the drive


Any on Amazon? I have a few gift cards to use so would be handy if there's a decent brand on there.


Thanks

I have the 10M version of this which they don't seem to have available right now. I only used it for a month or so until I had my charger fitted but it was problem free in that time. This one is similar and seems well reviewed and has a £25 voucher at the moment.

 

[jpaul]

Did you actually start the car though? i.e. foot on brake and press start?

If you just hit the start button only the 12V side would have been active, you need the HV contactors closed for heating as it will be powered by the HV battery, as would the AC

you solved my problem - I hadn't done so ... had gone outside to clear screen and look at w/kwh and hadn't put foot on brake,
I had expected to be simulating what would happen if I had the vauxhall app for real, and it was warming car up.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I have the 10M version of this which they don't seem to have available right now. I only used it for a month or so until I had my charger fitted but it was problem free in that time. This one is similar and seems well reviewed and has a £25 voucher at the moment.

Not sure I could ever trust a 13A granny charger. They are just a house fire waiting to happen.

The granny leads from reputable brands top out at 10A on a normal plug for good reason.

 

[squerble]

Not sure I could ever trust a 13A granny charger. They are just a house fire waiting to happen.

The granny leads from reputable brands top out at 10A on a normal plug for good reason.

The granny leads that came from factory with my Hyundai Kona could only run at 6/8/10A and I always ran at 8A as I had the luxury of not needing to charge too often.