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Nasher said:
You can still see the repair cost even when it's done under warranty...

Once that 8 years is over though, you pay it.

Is anyone going to pay 30k+ to repair a car worth probably 25k by then, probably not. Not even Porsche themselves. Off to auction for "spares or repairs" or junkyard. It's not like they are rare cars.
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Warranty repair costs are always £LOL on paper though. Go and get a gearbox replaced under warranty on an ICE car and you'll see similarly idiotic bills.
 
Nasher said:
Is anyone going to pay 30k+ to repair a car worth probably 25k by then, probably not. Not even Porsche themselves. Off to auction for "spares or repairs" or junkyard. It's not like they are rare cars.
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How much does a replacement engine for a Panamera cost? Just throwing it out there.
Anyone would think that ICE cars never have engine failures that put them beyond economical repair the way people go on about battery failures in EVs. It's frankly ridiculous.
 
I mean personally, I'd just look at the fact you can buy a used pack on eBay that's ~£6.5k for the 93kWh version and done under 20k miles, by the time you trade in your old faulty pack that can have modules replaced, you'll be looking at a decent cost, but depends on who you look to do the work when it is OOW. I'd imagine by the time they are OOW, the price of the used packs will be well under £4k unless someone figures out how to repurpose them for static energy storage easily.
 
Unless you have a timing belt go (which happened to me on my old Vectra - just needed a new belt, valves and seats), you’re more likely to have the bodywork rust out under you on a regular manual gearbox ICE saloon car or SUV that it go bang.
 
Nasher said:
Still a big, lane filling car though. Not exactly something to throw around a B road.

Nice cars, but people have batteries replaced on these and the bill is ludicrously expensive (more than a whole used car). So it looks like many will end up being scrapped, unlike past Porsches.
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A 60mm wider than a 911, hardly a boat, and if you have a lane then why not fill it.

Ahh the infamous B road where everyone has a spirited drive every weekend, not!

Cars have engines replaced under warranty all the time as well, don't they run into thousands as well, which if out of warranty the owner would scrap/ put in a used engine?
There's a used taycan battery on ebay for 13k, but they come with an 8 year 100,000 mile battery warranty so why worry.
 
Rilot said:
How much does a replacement engine for a Panamera cost? Just throwing it out there.
Anyone would think that ICE cars never have engine failures that put them beyond economical repair the way people go on about battery failures in EVs. It's frankly ridiculous.
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Except you can buy a used engine or parts and have a indi garage fit it quite "cheaply". No point buying old batteries and finding anyone to fit them other than the manufacturer will be hard.

Most of the cost isn't the batteries themselves, it's the labour as you need to disassemble most of the car. That won't be getting cheaper.
 
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Nasher said:
Except you can buy a used engine or parts and have a indi garage fit it quite "cheaply". No point buying old batteries and finding anyone to fit them other than the manufacturer will be hard.
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I don’t understand why you keep posting in this thread when you’re clearly so anti-EV and have zero real-world experience of the things you’re saying.

There are plenty of EV specialists out there that will happily do this work. How many ‘indies’ do you know that would do a full engine replacement in a Panamera? I’d be using a Porsche specialist for that - which is no different to using an EV specialist.
 
Been having fun with the Ohme charger. Suddenly just deciding to charge the car to 100% regardless of what is set in the schedule. :rolleyes:
 
Firegod said:
Been having fun with the Ohme charger. Suddenly just deciding to charge the car to 100% regardless of what is set in the schedule. :rolleyes:
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If you are on IOG they've changed the way it works. If not check your schedules, see if they are active.
 
Used engine prices for anything remotely modern are LOL prices, a poxy merc 651 (2009 to 2015 cars) engine is £1500, add labour on top of that and you are into not viable repair territory.

What annoys me about the anti EV'er is that they never take into account EV's, have barely been on the market for 10 years in mass production/sale. The ecosystem for maintaining them is going to take a bit of time to mature. The fact is, car buying has hugely changed in the last 25 years, people in the main buy a car for 5 years then get another new one, very few will keep them going till they break and repair them. Its bored people like my dad that buy the cars with ****ed engines and repair them to make a quick buck or 2, they arent normal and arent people that keep the industry going.

Just because Barry in his battered Passat 1.9 PD doesnt like EV's is neither here or there thankfully.
 
Nasher said:
Except you can buy a used engine or parts and have a indi garage fit it quite "cheaply".
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Riiiight. Try taking a Panamera with a thrown rod to a local indy and have them fix it "cheaply".
I'm sorry, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
 
Nasher said:
You can still see the repair cost even when it's done under warranty...

Once that 8 years is over though, you pay it.

Is anyone going to pay 30k+ to repair a car worth probably 25k by then, probably not. Not even Porsche themselves. Off to auction for "spares or repairs" or junkyard. It's not like they are rare cars.
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Same as engine and gearbox main dealer prices then.

Why are you googling taycan invoices? Weird hobby mate.
 
Tinders said:
We had some fittedby the council locally on the road.Sadly Barry and his mates decided destroy them.
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how much will streetside chargers cost (Barry's not a disappointed ev owner), whether they help drive down public charging cost.
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