Sadly probably all the ICE manufacturers mate, if EVs suddenyl get $7.5k more overnight.
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Gotta hope so, the quicker they bury their backwards country with out of date technology and "they took our jeeerbs!" mentality the better. It'll give Ford/GM/Toyota a false sense of security, at least in the US, while the rest of the world makes them irrelevant in less than 10 years. They voted for a Douche and a Turd Sandwich all in one, and they are reaping the rewards.
3.5 average apparently, though I'm not sure how often that updates. When I was mainly driving around town etc it said 4.5.
A mix of dual carriageways and NSL main roads so 60-70, with some 40 stretches through Dundee and road works, though I did push on a little more on the way up once I got onto the smooth, clear A90.
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I've got a model y and seem to be getting a lot of idle battery drain... 21% used since 7am Thursday morning when I parked at the airport...
Sentry and cabin protection are turned off (according to the app).
I'm not back until Saturday so at this rate it will be flat...anything else I can check ?
Sentry and cabin protection are turned off (according to the app).
I'm not back until Saturday so at this rate it will be flat...anything else I can check ?
Do you have EAP or FSD? One of the summon settings will keep the car awake. You can’t check that via the app.
The car should shut down any systems like that at 20%.
The other thing may be a 3rd party app which keeps waking it up/keeping it awake.
The car should shut down any systems like that at 20%.
The other thing may be a 3rd party app which keeps waking it up/keeping it awake.
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I don't have FSD.... The only app I have linked is my zappi charger / octopus intelligent go.
What's EAP?
What's EAP?
Surely something must actually be running like the heater or AC or something for that level of drain (rather than it just being woken up)?
Even if it's the smaller battery one, thats ~12kw of power used.
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Using the app keeps the car awake. Catch22. Worried about ghost power and by checking it you reset the timer.
‘Legacy’ don’t have this issue at all
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I've used the app twice since leaving the car..
If it does run flat by Saturday, can I just call Tesla assist and get someone out to give it a little charge?... There is a supercharger site like 2 miles from the car park..
If it does run flat by Saturday, can I just call Tesla assist and get someone out to give it a little charge?... There is a supercharger site like 2 miles from the car park..
If the car is awake, its consuming 150-300w running the electronics in the car, gross that up over 3.5 days and you are suddenly talking abour 15kwh.
To add to this, opening the app doesn't wake the car up if it was asleep. Only if you trigger a function (e.g. turn climate on) does the wake up proces start. If the app updates when you open it the car wasn't asleep in the first place.
If you are running IOG via the zappi, Octopus will not be linked to your Tesla account. If you are running it via the car integration, they could be. That said, I have not seen any issues with Octopus keeping the car away for years but you can disable smart charging in the Octopus app easily if you want to try that.
'enhanced auto pilot' is a half way house between normal autopilot and FSD - you have things like summon and auto park included but not full FSD (not that you get that in the UK anyway but thats another story).
There is an option under summon to keep the car in 'standby mode' which enables you to enage summon much more quickly (it effectivly keeps the car awake if away from home/work). Standby mode will switch off at 20%.
Yes, although I doubt they would charge it, they' just tow you to the closest charging point. Just one caveat is that they wouldn't cover you drving the car until it ran out of charge or if you left it unplugged for an extended period of time.
The other obvious thing I can think of is if the car wasn't secured e.g. are all the doors and windows closed and the car locked? That would prevent the car from sleeping.
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Yes somethings obviously keeping the car awake and that’s not desirable when it’s parked at an airport.
But that’s not necessarily something that’s wrong because there are quite a number of things which the user can do which actively prevents the car from sleeping. There could have course be a software bug keeping it awake.
Most are obvious like sentry or keeping the climate on. Others are much more subtle like the summon standby setting I mentioned.
The days of Tesla’s routinely losing a few % a day are long gone. Has hasn’t been a thing for many years.
@leoncuprar - you can open a service request and ask them why the car isn’t sleeping. If it’s a setting or a bug they might be able to reboot the car or change the setting remotely.
But that’s not necessarily something that’s wrong because there are quite a number of things which the user can do which actively prevents the car from sleeping. There could have course be a software bug keeping it awake.
Most are obvious like sentry or keeping the climate on. Others are much more subtle like the summon standby setting I mentioned.
The days of Tesla’s routinely losing a few % a day are long gone. Has hasn’t been a thing for many years.
@leoncuprar - you can open a service request and ask them why the car isn’t sleeping. If it’s a setting or a bug they might be able to reboot the car or change the setting remotely.
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Good idea, thanks, I'll do that... I don't have EAP
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Yeah thought that was a good vid, ive been following his stuff for a while and it's good to see it from more of a mechanics perspective than just a random youtube person.
I was really tempted by one of them 2nd hand as there are some really good deals on higher milage ones but my heart is saying spend the extra and get a Tesla..
I was really tempted by one of them 2nd hand as there are some really good deals on higher milage ones but my heart is saying spend the extra and get a Tesla..
point he doesn't (e: in the bits i viewed) make though is that a mg5 with only 50K miles would sell for little more on open market £8.5K, but the equivalent ICE would do much better
ie. bev depreciation is less correlated with mileage.(haven't scanned comments in the video)
unfortunately estate ev's are still rare beasts - byd 06 looks like a nice chinese one.
ie. bev depreciation is less correlated with mileage.(haven't scanned comments in the video)
unfortunately estate ev's are still rare beasts - byd 06 looks like a nice chinese one.
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The big problem with the first gen of MG5 is the lack of scheduled charging/preconditioning - if you've only got a dumb charger then there's no way to take advantage of time of use tariffs to minimise your electricity costs
If you do look at an early mg5, make sure it can charge on a tesla charger.
If you were to use tesla chargers that is.
Not all can charge using tesla chargers.
Mgev forums have it detailed on there about it.
But you wouldn't save the 15k difference in fuel over that mileage by using an ICE.
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Ah interesting i didn't know about that, tbf i think i'd rather get a Tesla Model 3 at this stage as i can get one with a tow bar, looks like you can only tow with the facelift MG5 and by that point im in to Tesla money anyway