EV general discussion

The congestion charge zone is about reducing congestion in a tiny area in central London. Last time I checked EVs still cause congestion.

If you don’t live in that zone or are a taxi, you’ve got very little reason to ever drive there.

The amount of pushback I’ve seen on the congestion zone changes are frankly bizarre. It was never going to be a permanent ’perk’.

Why do you think this makes the mayor of London a very bad man when you neither:
A) own an EV
B) don’t live in central London
 
Older generation borns/id3's still don't have the newer efficient 550 motor and invaluable pre-conditioning if you don't have a home charger,
which is one of the reasons I'm not in one
So you bought a car with no motor, and no chance of ever being able to precondition, you come out with some cracking ones. The hilarity never stops. :D

EDIT: I mean you have an alternator, so that is a motor... hmmm what the BHP on that thing and efficiency for driving your car?
 
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Why do you think this makes the mayor of London a very bad man when you neither:
A) own an EV
B) don’t live in central London
sign of things to come - you've experienced the traffic in Cambridge
... it's a trump troppe (e: mayor of london) which yayyuuh wouldn't have got.


on a roll..
So you bought a car with no motor, and no chance of ever being able to precondition
id3/born last generation 58K meb's were well in budget but both charging speed and accompanying preconditioning wouldn't have made periodic 300miles
round trips with family much fun.
 
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sign of things to come - you've experienced the traffic in Cambridge
... it's a trump troppe (e: mayor of london) which yayyuuh wouldn't have got.


on a roll..

id3/born last generation 58K meb's were well in budget but both charging speed and accompanying preconditioning wouldn't have made periodic 300miles
round trips with family much fun.
You don't have to fill it back to 80-90% - just enough to get back home. so 10-15 minutes on a charger to get back is reasonable.
 
on a roll..

id3/born last generation 58K meb's were well in budget but both charging speed and accompanying preconditioning wouldn't have made periodic 300miles
round trips with family much fun.
You continually create conditions that when fulfilled you still fail to buy an EV

Utter fantasist
 
sign of things to come - you've experienced the traffic in Cambridge
... it's a trump troppe (e: mayor of london) which yayyuuh wouldn't have got.


on a roll..

id3/born last generation 58K meb's were well in budget but both charging speed and accompanying preconditioning wouldn't have made periodic 300miles
round trips with family much fun.
You are over thinking it.

Every day goes past and you haven’t had the EV. DC Charging is a very very small part of the ownership experience.

I can’t imagine any sort of family trip with you is fun, I would assume you would prefer slower charging anyway. More time to watch YouTube.
 
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sign of things to come - you've experienced the traffic in Cambridge
... it's a trump troppe (e: mayor of london) which yayyuuh wouldn't have got.
No one got it because it was neither relevant or funny.

Last time I checked the mayor of London didn’t have responsibility for congestion or roads policy in Cambridge.

Cambridgeshire country council who have the legal power to introduce such a scheme is run by the Lib Dem’s not Labour.

Likewise the Metro mayor who holds the purse strings for major transport infrastructure is a conservative who strongly opposes such a scheme.

Not only that EVs don’t cause less congestion than ICE cars. If your bothered about traffic, get a motorbike or the bus.

Anyway, that’s enough nonsense local politics start a separate thread if you want to talk about the lack of congestion charging in Cambridge.

Any anyone rode a Maeving RM1S?

Seems like the perfect Vehicle for jpaul to get around the contested streets of Cambridge. It even has removable batteries that he can recharge from a normal socket and doesn’t need to worry about his garage power supply.

 
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Anyone used any third party apps on a Google pixel watch to use the watch as a key for their tesla?

I know apple watch works native but all my devices are Google sadly.
 
Anyone used any third party apps on a Google pixel watch to use the watch as a key for their tesla?

I know apple watch works native but all my devices are Google sadly.

I know plenty do but I can’t give and specific recommendations as I’m also iOS.

All I will say is that some of these apps require you to give pretty broad API access to your car for them to work. As they are 3rd party, you are effectively handing over the keys to your car.

Should there be a breach of that app, the attacker in theory could obtain the location of your car, the ability to unlock and remote start it.

The risk is probably very low but buyer beware and all that.
 
id3/born last generation 58K meb's were well in budget but both charging speed and accompanying preconditioning wouldn't have made periodic 300miles
round trips with family much fun.

Ah yes, a 300 mile ~5-6 hour total driving time where plugging in the car while you stop for a toilet or drink break is too much hassle, and takes the fun away.
 
No one got it because it was neither relevant or funny.

Last time I checked the mayor of London didn’t have responsibility for congestion or roads policy in Cambridge.

Cambridgeshire country council who have the legal power to introduce such a scheme is run by the Lib Dem’s not Labour.

Likewise the Metro mayor who holds the purse strings for major transport infrastructure is a conservative who strongly opposes such a scheme.

Not only that EVs don’t cause less congestion than ICE cars. If your bothered about traffic, get a motorbike or the bus.

Anyway, that’s enough nonsense local politics start a separate thread if you want to talk about the lack of congestion charging in Cambridge.

Any anyone rode a Maeving RM1S?

Seems like the perfect Vehicle for jpaul to get around the contested streets of Cambridge. It even has removable batteries that he can recharge from a normal socket and doesn’t need to worry about his garage power supply.


Is that the same one Imogen from everything Electric has bought? Apparently not homologated yet for euro so can’t actually ride it yet until they sport the paper work. Whoops. A colleague has a bike just not sure which model.
 
My first full month driving a electrical appliance on wheels has cost me precisely £16.36, which reassuringly validates me buying one.
Despite my reservations, I can't fault the experience at all (despite driving a Nissan queef).



Ooooh I missed this, how many miles was that?
 
The risk is probably very low but buyer beware and all that.

The risk might be low, but if someone finds an exploit and the crims deem the car worth it, that could spread faster than a software update and cars could vanish instantly. Just look at what happened with Kias over in the states when people discovered that they could steal the car with nothing more than a USB plug.

Not a chance I'd be willing to take tbh, the potential downside doesn't come close to outweighing the convenience.
 
Is that the same one Imogen from everything Electric has bought? Apparently not homologated yet for euro so can’t actually ride it yet until they sport the paper work. Whoops. A colleague has a bike just not sure which model.
I’d seen it on their channel but I didn’t know she had bought one.

I hadn't clocked she could ride? I thought Jack did the review, perhaps it was an older video or a different bike I am recalling.

A quick curiosity glance at the website suggests you only need a CBT and if you have an A1 license you can ride it on a motorway so I’d have thought it was all legit for U.K. roads.
 
I know plenty do but I can’t give and specific recommendations as I’m also iOS.

All I will say is that some of these apps require you to give pretty broad API access to your car for them to work. As they are 3rd party, you are effectively handing over the keys to your car.

Should there be a breach of that app, the attacker in theory could obtain the location of your car, the ability to unlock and remote start it.

The risk is probably very low but buyer beware and all that.
Aye that thought did put me off... I suppose there's a 4 digit pass key on my car so even with the key unlikely they could drive off.

The security on tesla seems pretty good in that way
 
Some early EVs have short range and slow charging speeds and thermal throttling thats impractical for many people and can't use many of the new DC chargers. An older ICE isn't limited in the same way.

That said a 30k used EV isn't likely to have any of those limitations. Definitely into a modern era of EVs at that price point. Using "Dated" in that context is just being informed.

Any CCS equipped car with >50kwh battery is still fairly modern as far as EVs go, sure if you're talking about a 20/30/40kwh Leaf or Zoe then the issues you mention are valid, but nobody is spending anywhere close to £30k on one of those!

My Niro just turned 5, and there's certainly no "modern" EV in the same segment which is a significant improvement or makes it feel dated.
 
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