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Liftback hatch
Aerodynamic profile
65-75kWh battery
4.5+ mi/kWh target
300+ real-world miles
BYD/Hyundai's usual "throw the options list at it" specification
Reliable
Decent and reliable ADAS
Mid £20k to low £30k pricing (sitting somewhere between the BYD Dolphin and Seal)

Maybe when someone actually makes such a car, AutoExpress will give it the Family Van Car of the Year award and you can all untwist your knickers a little :p
 
Maybe when someone actually makes such a car, AutoExpress will give it the Family Van Car of the Year award and you can all untwist your knickers a little :p

Not only that, but there'd be a mass adoption vehicle to point to. The MG4 could have been that, but they screwed the pooch...hard, and thanks to better finance offers, the BYD is actually costing me less a month than the MG did...
 
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Finally got my Jaguar ipace off of the island and on to mainland UK - over the moon with it on the motorway in terms of how it pulls and the comfort and acoustics. Best car I've had on a motorway by a country mile.

On an unrelated note - Skoda Peaq has now been fully revealed, extremely strong contender for my partners next car!

What is a good price to pay per kwh when using a 100+kw charger? First one I used was £0.89 which I thought was expensive, found another at £0.59 which was more reasonable, but still more than I was expecting?
 
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We aren't in the world of Corsa/Ka/Fiesta vs the Galaxy/Sharan and the likes anymore; there are so many mid sized vehicles that now suit an average family better than a mini van

Yeah the PV5 isn't anything like a replacement for the likes of the Galaxy/Sharan which is much more a family vehicle. They've got one parked in the showroom at one of the Nissan dealers I use but I didn't have time to take much of a look at it when I was up there a few days back, they have some pretty keen deals on them currently - one aspect that does interest me is the V2L capability.
 
What is a good price to pay per kwh when using a 100+kw charger? First one I used was £0.89 which I thought was expensive, found another at £0.59 which was more reasonable, but still more than I was expecting?
Unless you can find an open to all Supercharger you won't really get better than 59p/kW
 
Yeah the PV5 isn't anything like a replacement for the likes of the Galaxy/Sharan which is much more a family vehicle. They've got one parked in the showroom at one of the Nissan dealers I use but I didn't have time to take much of a look at it when I was up there a few days back, they have some pretty keen deals on them currently - one aspect that does interest me is the V2L capability.

Please say more. Why? :)
 
It’s okay he didn’t have much time to look at it, too busy chatting to the blue rinse brigade drinking lattes I think?

But still can cast an opinion…
 
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About to pull the trigger on my wifes EV through my work car scheme, but cannot make my mind up on colour because the choices are all pretty crap (Kona). I know I shouldn't be spending so much time on it for a car I won't own but still find it hard to get past :D Even to the point do you just get the solid colour and not bother paying for the metallic paint. If we get on with this as our first EV I'm going to get myself the R5.
 
About to pull the trigger on my wifes EV through my work car scheme, but cannot make my mind up on colour because the choices are all pretty crap (Kona). I know I shouldn't be spending so much time on it for a car I won't own but still find it hard to get past :D Even to the point do you just get the solid colour and not bother paying for the metallic paint. If we get on with this as our first EV I'm going to get myself the R5.
I'd probably go Sailing Blue or Meta Blue. Would avoid black, my current i5 is carbon black and i'll never have another black car as it shows the dirt so quickly. Washed it last Sunday, already needs another wash and it's hardly rained!

PS. The R5 is a great little car, i got one for the wife and she loves it, i like it too but can't get my hands on it as shes always out in it! :D
 
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Unless you can find an open to all Supercharger you won't really get better than 59p/kW
Yes, this is exactly why home charging is so important, and why public charger use can massively change the cost per mile proposition.
As I mentioned earlier, a lot of homes don't pay much attention to the tariff they're on at home either, and that can make a substantial difference, but it also makes me think the average price paid per mile/kwh is nowhere near the average some EV enthusiasts using the EV tariffs would like to think.

One positive however is that public chargers generally all provide public access now without HAVING to have an account, and you've got things like Electroverse trying to bring multiple charger networks under one charge account, which is a massive improvement over what was in place 5-10 years ago, along with the massively increased public roll out.

@PermaChanged
I would say look at what chargers are commonly available on the routes you check, and which networks they're on, and see if they do any specific discounts if you subscribe or do a direct account/connection via thier own app. Sometimes it can make a substantial difference, even if its still bringing it back down to that ~55-65p per kwh region, but better than close to £1.
 
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About to pull the trigger on my wifes EV through my work car scheme, but cannot make my mind up on colour because the choices are all pretty crap (Kona). I know I shouldn't be spending so much time on it for a car I won't own but still find it hard to get past :D Even to the point do you just get the solid colour and not bother paying for the metallic paint. If we get on with this as our first EV I'm going to get myself the R5.
My previous i20 and the wife's current Kona are the metallic red they do, really nice colour when it's popping in the sunshine.
 
In all honesty, if you can home charge, you’ll use them so little it’s not worth your time going out of your way to get to a cheaper charger if there is another one in a much more convenient location.

Time is money and all that.
 
One positive however is that public chargers generally all provide public access now without HAVING to have an account, and you've got things like Electroverse trying to bring multiple charger networks under one charge account, which is a massive improvement over what was in place 5-10 years ago, along with the massively increased public roll out.
i find it silly that one needs apps and accounts for public EV charging in the first place.
it should be like petrol stations where you pull up, tap your credit/debit card...it places a £100/120 hold on the card, then plug and charge and spit out a receipt at the end
why make things difficult
 
i find it silly that one needs apps and accounts for public EV charging in the first place.
it should be like petrol stations where you pull up, tap your credit/debit card...it places a £100/120 hold on the card, then plug and charge and spit out a receipt at the end
why make things difficult
Very much agreed, that said whilst it is the way it is, sometimes the accounts and such offer notable discounts, so its worth being aware. I was charging recently at one point because I was in the middle of a multi hundreds of miles run, and just using an app knocked the rate down by almost 50%.

I very much do wish that sooner or later it all unified/agnostic and public rates become better for it (especially if the VAT cut goes through) and becomes just tap your card...it kinda has progressed to that now to a degree as I seem to remember all new chargers MUST just accept credit/debit card, with the exception the 'just tap' rate is often massively higher than account rate right now, something which needs to change.
 
TBH the expense of having a payment reader and fees for an AC charging post makes no sense, so unfortunately apps and accounts are here to stay. Contactless is mandated for rapid charging though - you should try Europe where this isn't a requirement!
 
I'd probably go Sailing Blue or Meta Blue. Would avoid black, my current i5 is carbon black and i'll never have another black car as it shows the dirt so quickly. Washed it last Sunday, already needs another wash and it's hardly rained!

PS. The R5 is a great little car, i got one for the wife and she loves it, i like it too but can't get my hands on it as shes always out in it! :D
I have just a black roof on my mini and I hate it. I could never go black as i'm a bit ott with my car cleaning which I'm hoping having a lease also cures :D
 
Finally got my Jaguar ipace off of the island and on to mainland UK - over the moon with it on the motorway in terms of how it pulls and the comfort and acoustics. Best car I've had on a motorway by a country mile.

On an unrelated note - Skoda Peaq has now been fully revealed, extremely strong contender for my partners next car!

What is a good price to pay per kwh when using a 100+kw charger? First one I used was £0.89 which I thought was expensive, found another at £0.59 which was more reasonable, but still more than I was expecting?
Ionity if you get their monthly subscription. 47p pkwh? Ish
 
On the subject of cost per mile we've now been a full EV household for almost exactly 12 months.

Covered 27,440 miles between both cars, spent £620 on charging (actually slightly less as I've used 0.065p as the average unit cost for home), 14% of that was spent on public charging at whichever Electroverse charger was closest and the total cost per mile is...0.023p.

Very very rough petrol comparison based on 40mpg and £50 a tank so undershooting on both, 0.125p or £3.4k at the pump total.

Take off the charger install which is now all paid up and we're £2k in the green for year one.
 
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