We are talking in the context of know you'll have to charge away form home, but yes I agree Little Chef toast prices were crazy.I like that analogy, but only really works at free chargers. Otherwise it's a case of buying loaf at 89p a slice when you can have it at 9p at home.
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GET A BIGGER ******* FREEZER THEN ****.
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Oh, you mean FINAL form Frieza.
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Just done a 201mile day in my polestar2 srsm, started in Newcastle, down to Whitby, across the top of the North Yorkshire moors to Pickering, to RAF leeming back to Newcastle (70mph up A1) and got 221wH per mile or 4.5miles per kWh, very happy with that. I’m off from Newcastle to Liverpool on Wednesday so will see how it goes when it’s all motorway miles
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recently got a full windscreen replacement due to a stone chip/crack from tesla , circa £1300 but £100 excess with Admiral
Also got tesla to look at the suspension after MOT advisory and they basically sorted £1500 ish worth of suspension replacement (model Y 2023 46k miles) all under warranty no quibble which seemed good.
Also got tesla to look at the suspension after MOT advisory and they basically sorted £1500 ish worth of suspension replacement (model Y 2023 46k miles) all under warranty no quibble which seemed good.
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I have a similar issue coming from Leon, the way you describe sound similar to me in my Model Y. I'm confident the seat is set ergonomically correct if that makes sense and it's a case of letting my back get used to the new position after 8 years of laid back boy racing style position.
A friend had a similar issue coming from a A3 to a SUV
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It's not necessarily about a single long journey, but more applicable to round trips without convenient destination charging.
Case in point, I frequently travel to my brother's house which is ~100 miles each way. Easy enough in summer, but in winter, doing 60mph vs 70mph on the way back (on the few parts of the M5 that's actually possible!) is the difference between needing to stop or not.
There are quite a few services on the motorway where I could stop if it's looking particularly hairy, but I'd rather spend an extra 7 minutes driving slightly slower than 10 minutes charging (more like 15-20 mins really, as it's 2-3 mins each side navigating the services car park, plugging in, starting the charge, then unplugging, navigating back out of the services etc.), along with having to pay 10x what I pay at home for the privilege!
Obviously if I end up having to stop anyway, I'll plug in for a few mins, but I'd rather not unless I really need to.
Some of us like to live dangerously
This is last time I made the journey back (I was 3 miles from home with 10 miles showing when it decided to tell me I had nothing left)
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Some of us like to live dangerously
All fun and games until you have to take an unexpected diversion.
Whilst still struggling to get a refund for public charger caused by a failed charger at a previous cottage rental, we are due at an AirBNB today and the host just informed us the Charger is on an app, sent us details, we download/login and they’ve set the rate at £0.65 to match local public chargers which are 0.3 miles away..
I don’t really care what price they want to charge and how much of a revenue stream they want to generate, it’s the fact it’s not advertised upfront that is the issue..
I brought it up with the host as being not advertised and is actually more expensive to me than the local chargers (electroverse discount them), they just say the app suggested that but what did I think was a fair rate as they’ve had no complaints.. I just said they are free to charge what they want and if no complaints so far, stick with it but just advertise upfront, then there are no surprises or complaints..
I don’t think I can be bothered complaining, it gets you nowhere and I am starting to feel like my Yorkshire roots are genetically coming through and don’t want to be the old man shouting at the clouds about the cost of everything…
I can supercharge 25 miles away which I’ll pass going on the way, they are £0.45/kwh so will only need minimal charging during the week..
I don’t really care what price they want to charge and how much of a revenue stream they want to generate, it’s the fact it’s not advertised upfront that is the issue..
I brought it up with the host as being not advertised and is actually more expensive to me than the local chargers (electroverse discount them), they just say the app suggested that but what did I think was a fair rate as they’ve had no complaints.. I just said they are free to charge what they want and if no complaints so far, stick with it but just advertise upfront, then there are no surprises or complaints..
I don’t think I can be bothered complaining, it gets you nowhere and I am starting to feel like my Yorkshire roots are genetically coming through and don’t want to be the old man shouting at the clouds about the cost of everything…
I can supercharge 25 miles away which I’ll pass going on the way, they are £0.45/kwh so will only need minimal charging during the week..
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I'll shout at the clouds on your behalf then, as that is just plain profiteering from the person renting it out. They won't be paying more than the price cap for electricity and they are probably still on a consumer/home tariff not a commercial one.
I mean it is profiteering but they are in the rental business so it's entirely about making money isn't it?
Not like they are trying to hide under the guise of being a charity
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just incase they were being genuine I would have engaged them in this . maybe they don't themselves have an EV and are ignorant of whatever the usual costs are in which case you would have been doing them a favour esp if they were on a residential tariff. ideally they should at least be charging a little less than a Tesla super charger if they want to be competitive .
I do agree they need to make it clear what they charge esp if they want to keep at that price as that is steep for AC overnight charging.
do air B&Bs get to stay on residential tariffs? if they don't it would significantly increase their operating costs... if they do you could just recommend they go on octopus go (or equivalent) but lock down the charger so it only works on the cheap hrs
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I mean it is profiteering but they are in the rental business so it's entirely about making money isn't it?
It's like those places that have aircon/hot tub then charge extra for the use and it the reason you might want to book them in the first place. We have differing opinions on it I think 65p is just helping people normalise and justify such high unit prices. Also I am not a charity but I've let people pay cost price to use my ZapHome/CoCharger.
Exactly, they also have a charger install cost to recoup. Unless you think that cost should be spread to all renters whether they drive an EV, ICE or ride the bus. It's a business at the end of the day.I mean it is profiteering but they are in the rental business so it's entirely about making money isn't it?
Edit - to add though, yes, the cost should really be stated up front.
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Weird they don't charge you more to walk on their carpets, or open the fridge door, or lie on the mattress for 2 hours longer than average, or use the air fryer or oven. These all have upfront costs and wear and tear, yet they build it into the cost of the rental... So tell me why exactly they have to profiteer on a electricity?
Because they are all facilities that are equally usable by all guests. The EV charger will be used buy a small proportion of their guests. An air fryer also isn't hundreds of pounds to install.
Ultimately though 'because they can' comes in to play. The same way that you can pay nearly £2 a litre for fuel on the motorway, cost of convenience.
My edit was pretty late so you probably missed where I said they should be up front with the cost.
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I would say a EV charger would be a very good selling point to help increase occupancy and as a 1 off expense of around £1k would pay for itself like that. I know it's the 1st thing I look for when going for a long weekend away.
I'm not in the holiday letting game, as much as my wife would like us to be, but it would be very property specific how much it actually increases occupancy and rate of return on that investment.
Even demographics of your typical renter come into play.
As Journey rightly pointed out, it is like the surcharge for use of a hot tub. It's their choice to do so but they really should be upfront with the cost.