Absolutely. The sweet spot would be somewhere between the cost of standard rate electricity and the petrol equivalent. Enough to put someone off with home charging (but not be a complete rip off if they do need to top up their BEV) but still represent a decent saving over the equivalent petrol ppm.
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seemed a good deal corsa-e £321p/m, 3 years 15K miles (plenty for commute) ,
if Boris is going to replenish the post-covid coffers with a petrol tax, as discussed this morning, could become more motivated to switch.
if Boris is going to replenish the post-covid coffers with a petrol tax, as discussed this morning, could become more motivated to switch.
Agreed free chargers might be a good idea to promote initial adoption of EVs but they can't have a long term future, not least because the Oil&Gas companies will invest heavily in this area to protect their revenue stream. They money to pay for the electric has to come from somewhere and the cost has to be passed to the consumer eventually.
As for the debate about PHEV drivers 'hogging' charging points, it's a free-for-all and everyone has the same entitlement. Reducing the number of free changing points eventually will promote the 'right' behaviours or at least the supposed animosity around perceived entitlement. It sounds daft but psychologically some people seem to resent others using scarce free services whereas if the service is chargeable then there is less resentment. Like if there was a free pool table and people were using it for 30mins others might accuse them of hogging it whereas if they put down enough coins to play for 30mins people just accept it.
As for the debate about PHEV drivers 'hogging' charging points, it's a free-for-all and everyone has the same entitlement. Reducing the number of free changing points eventually will promote the 'right' behaviours or at least the supposed animosity around perceived entitlement. It sounds daft but psychologically some people seem to resent others using scarce free services whereas if the service is chargeable then there is less resentment. Like if there was a free pool table and people were using it for 30mins others might accuse them of hogging it whereas if they put down enough coins to play for 30mins people just accept it.
That's a pretty good deal I think. All the EV most people need too.
Seems Tesla delivered over 200k vehicles in Q2, pretty impressive considering shortages of parts etc. and the fact that literally 99% were only two models. Puts them on track for over 750k for the year, even without the two new factories up and running.
Still cant see them doing 22m per annum by 2030 like Musk claims.
Just wondering if any of you who currently own a EV. How many don’t have a charging point at home? How do you get on, only using charging point at work or at the supermarket etc? Only interested as I wouldn’t have ability to charge a EV at home. As like many others street parking or I would have to run a cable across the street to the few parking spot we have.
I'll let you know as we will be without one fr 2 weeks and no granny charger!
I don't think I'd like to have a ln electric car without home charging long term if I'm honest.
Not having the ability to charge it at home, is the biggest thing that puts me off EV’s at the minute. I have grown to like them, after I have had the chance to drive a handful of them at work over the last year.
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I'm semi debating taking over a 6 month old model 3 at work, think its an LR
I cant make the maths work though
I get a £10k car allowance pre tax so lets call it £500 per month, plus I only pay tax and NI on my private fuel so the fuel saving is only in effect 42% of what it actually costs
As my TT is just over 3 years old and due to COVID well under expected mileage I can keep that for a couple of cheap years motoring, depreciation is low now so its far less to take into account compared to if I was to be comparing company car against a new car with depreciation
I cant make the maths work though
I get a £10k car allowance pre tax so lets call it £500 per month, plus I only pay tax and NI on my private fuel so the fuel saving is only in effect 42% of what it actually costs
As my TT is just over 3 years old and due to COVID well under expected mileage I can keep that for a couple of cheap years motoring, depreciation is low now so its far less to take into account compared to if I was to be comparing company car against a new car with depreciation
Honestly? As much as I’d love to say go for it,I just wouldn’t without a home charger or a cast iron long term work charger. I’d leave it a few years and see what the situation is like then on the public network.
ICE/Hybid cars aren’t going anywhere and there will be plenty of availability for the next 15 years or so on the new/used market.
For me, it depends on how many miles you do, and whether you are a city or rural dweller. If you only do school runs/to the shops and you live in a city - go for it. There's enough Tescos/McDonalds/whatevers around to mean you always have some way of topping up at a reasonable rate. If you do long distances frequently, and/or live in the country, maybe not until you can charge in some way from your house. Even then, if you have a Tesla and a Supercharger is within ~20 miles of home, you could charge on the way home for 20-30 mins and it would be fine.
It totally depends on your life and your attitude really.
Have a look for pre reg deals on the corsa-e.
We went for one as a top spec, 0 miles, pre reg was £210 p/m for 4 years, 8k miles, with a £1500 deposit at 3.9%. Obviously with PCP there is the balloon payment but if you want to treat it as a lease, you can just hand it back.
Must be a pretty big balloon payment on that sort of deal.
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