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chroniclard said:
Hmm Skoda doing an Enyaq vRS....but only 6.5 0-60....seems a bit poor.
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If it's anything like the ID3 figures it likely will be under 6sec real world.

We are very happy with the ID3 so far, have this car on the radar as it's replacement although the VW GTX or whatever may pip it if we can get a decent deal in a couple of years time.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
The term ‘Chinese build quality’ used in a derogatory way is just a nonsense really these days.
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moreover, I think the world backed off on engineering quality, removing over engineering/repairability in response to throwaway product obsolesence paradigm - decline in bmw/mercedes (german) build since the 90's to wit. ashi-guru fixed their japanese quality in electronic goods, but similarly worldwide decline since then.
(e: or, rather Kaoru Ishikawa... V gearing on front/rear M3 motors are different)

chroniclard said:
Hmm Skoda doing an Enyaq vRS....but only 6.5 0-60....seems a bit poor.
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maybe with higher gearing they are pushing the power band upwards into the 50mph+ range - headline 0-60 is not all there is.
demands on the battery/cooling system/electronics are also increased by alllowing fast 0-60.
 
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The ID3 is much smaller and I don’t think there’s a 4WD yet until GTX shows up? How is there a real world sub 6 version?

Enyaq also has bigger wheels and tyres. The motor won’t be different regardless what jpaul hypothesis suggests - that’s the idea of an at scale platform deployment.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Since when has any Skoda been much quicker than that?

Why does everything need to do 0-60 in 3 seconds now?
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now? some of us always wanted to. :)

SDK^ said:
It's a family SUV with a bit more power - not a GT3 car :p
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Yet there are plenty that are much quicker. Granted probably much more expensive.

chanjy said:
That's just as fast as an Octavia VRS more or less, so... just because it has a VRS label doesn't mean it is that fast lol
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Had a vRS in the past(albeit an old Mk1 Octavia) and loved it. Would be nice to see a fast(er) vRS EV is all.



Build me a Golf R EV Volkswagen :cry:
 
chroniclard said:
now? some of us always wanted to. :)

Had a vRS in the past(albeit an old Mk1 Octavia) and loved it. Would be nice to see a fast(er) vRS EV is all.
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0-60 in sub 7 seconds is plenty quick enough for a sporty version of a family SUV from Skoda. This arms race of manufacturers focussing on the EV party piece of 0-60 times has skewed peoples concepts of a quick car in the family car segment. Doesn't make the willy waving of "ooh look the Model S "Plaid" does 0-60 0.4 seconds quicker" any less irrelevant on the roads though.

Wasn't the mk1 Octavia vRS 7.9s 0-60? So it is already a fair chunk quicker in comparison.
 
lordrobs said:
0-60 in sub 7 seconds is plenty quick enough for a sporty version of a family SUV from Skoda. This arms race of manufacturers focussing on the EV party piece of 0-60 times has skewed peoples concepts of a quick car in the family car segment. Doesn't make the willy waving of "ooh look the Model S "Plaid" does 0-60 0.4 seconds quicker" any less irrelevant on the roads though.

Wasn't the mk1 Octavia vRS 7.9s 0-60? So it is already a fair chunk quicker in comparison.
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Oh yeah, the mk1 wasn't particularly quick in the grand scheme of things. My expectations of a vRS are possibly inflated. :)

Brother has a i4 M50 on the way, so if we go EV needs to be in that ballpark. :cry::p 2.5 more years of the Golf R anyway so plenty of time for something interesting(to me) to appear.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Since when has any Skoda been much quicker than that?

Why does everything need to do 0-60 in 3 seconds now?
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Tesla has created that USP for EVs. So now everyone expects EVs that go as quick and have as much range. Really how no one else is keeping up with Tesla after all this time is a bit shocking.
 
delta0 said:
Tesla has created that USP for EVs. So now everyone expects EVs that go as quick and have as much range. Really how no one else is keeping up with Tesla after all this time is a bit shocking.
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I’m not sure that’s really true. An i4 M50 is only a smidge more than a Model 3 Performance, and both have a similar range and acceleration figures.

What there isn’t really is anything that covers what the lower Model 3 variants offer for the money. The Model 3 Long Range is still faster than most EVs yet with a higher range.
 
paradigm said:
I’m not sure that’s really true. An i4 M50 is only a smidge more than a Model 3 Performance, and both have a similar range and acceleration figures.

What there isn’t really is anything that covers what the lower Model 3 variants offer.
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In the real world the i4 is well down on the range unfortunately. Tests with the 20” wheels have it sub 200 miles of range on a motorway vs M3P which is around 270-280.
 
delta0 said:
Tesla has created that USP for EVs. So now everyone expects EVs that go as quick and have as much range. Really how no one else is keeping up with Tesla after all this time is a bit shocking.
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Because most cars are bought by non car enthusiasts and most non car enthusiasts don't care about doing 0-60 in 3 seconds.
 
I don't think this that Tesla have made a USP a for EV's being very fast, nearly all manufactures have gone down that route and nearly all models have more power than their ICE equivalents. Even the Leaf was pretty fast for what it was and who it was targeting, same with the likes of the Kona.

The thing is that making a fast EV isn't that difficult and if done correctly, doesn't really impact efficacy and therefore cost to run it - you really can have the best of both worlds in an EV, that is both lots a power and great efficiency. People look to Tesla because they absolutely nailed that concept of combining power and effciency which others just can't seen to match.

[TW]Fox said:
Because most cars are bought by non car enthusiasts and most non car enthusiasts don't care about doing 0-60 in 3 seconds.
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I disagree. Most people want to drive round in more powerful ICE car. Granted not always enough power to do 0-60 in 3 seconds but certainly more than 110hp you get in an average car. The issue is that the mainstream prioritise efficiency (and therefore cost) over power because they are mutually exclusive with ICE where more powerful cars nearly always cost significantly more to run.
 
0-30 is where it is at, people who aren't even into cars can feel the vast difference in power/torque when pulling away at junctions, or doing hill starts (important where I live). Pretty much any EV will feel fast if it isn't being restricted for efficiency/safety at those speeds, getting to 60 great on a slip road but after that I don't think it makes much different how quickly you reach the legal speed limit.

I've had a few people in my Ioniq who've commented at how fast it felt off the line so to speak, and why would you need anything faster, one of these people owns an M3 Beeeeeemeeeer (and a camper van!) and being a bloke in his early 60's never thought he'd be impressed by an electric car, let alone a KOREAN one
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Press drives is not real world.
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I’m really happy to be convinced otherwise if someone can provide a real world range test for this car at motorway speeds.

[TW]Fox said:
Because most cars are bought by non car enthusiasts and most non car enthusiasts don't care about doing 0-60 in 3 seconds.
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Tesla seems to be making it work as they have the greatest number of EV sales. 3, 4 or 5s they are all ridiculous numbers for non sports cars.
 
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