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It certainly will be with company car drivers and indeed small company owners when BIK on EV (>130miles range) drops through the floor to 2%
 
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TheOracle said:
Call me pessimistic, but currently we are paying £60 for a tank of petrol.....and could be paying £6 for electric Mmmmmm can't see it myself.
No doubt the electric costs will increase by a factor of 10 for tax
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Just is what am waiting for..

To see how there going to tax electric cars and how much :(
As there no way the government going put up with losing all the money they get from fuel tax as more people buy electric cars..
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Just buy solar panels and a battery storage system.
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But they may end up charging the TAX by the mileage driven or just a yearly TAX price you pay
They also need something where they can make tax out of holiday drivers as well..

Think if they put the tax on the electric used to charge the batteries a lot people will find a way around it..
 
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Matthew.M said:
Scratch that one off the list then! Didn’t find that when I searched :o
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The Youtube video and Jaguar links in my reply to you are both UK specific too... :p

Nasher said:
It's not legal to leave a car running while unattended in a public place/road. It is in parts of the US as well. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you can do it anywhere :D
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But there's nothing stopping you doing it on your drive, or another private location.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Just buy solar panels and a battery storage system.
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Yea for about £10000+ since the government grants ended.

As for tax, theres no chance they will allow it to be cheaper in the end. Once EVs are mainstream expect running it to cost as much as a petrol/diesel car does now.
 
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The Tesla Model 3 opened my eyes to the possibility of a something out of the ordinary but then I saw it wouldn't be available over here for years. Then spotted the VW "eCamper" thingy and thought this is getting interesting and then Honda showed the two concept cars recently and announced the probability of the Honda Urban EV being a production reality. Love it and I want one!

Still gotta wait though and so my i3 is the first step to running an EV on a daily basis.

 
Jonnycoupe said:
Yeah but when/if EV cost as much as Dino juice does now : imagine how much the fuel will be then.
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Dino juice will not be an option at that point you also need to look at the bigger picture.

While I am not exactly a green age hippy its quite obvious that burning stuff constantly is particularly good for air quality nor the environment as a whole and if there is an alternative we should embrace it. Even if it means changing our behaviour.

Also there is the whole lining the pockets of Mr Putins and the oil cartels thing that I would rather not do....
 
chaparral said:
But they may end up charging the TAX by the mileage driven or just a yearly TAX price you pay
They also need something where they can make tax out of holiday drivers as well..

Think if they put the tax on the electric used to charge the batteries a lot people will find a way around it..
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i'm sure taxi drivers would love that. never going to happen
 
Nasher said:
Yea for about £10000+ since the government grants ended.

As for tax, theres no chance they will allow it to be cheaper in the end. Once EVs are mainstream expect running it to cost as much as a petrol/diesel car does now.
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doesn't matter how much they cost if they pay for themselves over time. making them free.

my system was around £5,500. it makes me around £150 a year in FIT and deemed payback. it also generates about £180 worth of free electric a year for me to use. that is using todays prices. they will only go up over time. so in 5 years time it could be making me say £220 worth of electric a year. FIT also goes up over time

mine is a small 2kw system too. the bigger you go the more it makes you in terms of a return.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
i'm sure taxi drivers would love that. never going to happen
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But they already pay fuel TAX by how many miles they do now...(As in the more miles they do the more fuel they have to buy)

But then putting tax on mileage would not be fair as it would cost the same for a huge EV car as a tiny one.
 
I’d be tempted to get one on PCP. At this stage the technology and cost would make owning one daunting.

I.e. I wouldn’t fancy dealing with a battery that loses most of its capacity after a few years. Whichever way you look at it, you’re paying to replace the pack at ££££ or sell it (for less) with a known issue.

Ps, I should say that we have a 4kWh solar panel installation on the Uber government rate which nets us around £2k a year.
 
When either one of these 2 things happens.

1 - I can afford to run 2 cars
2 - it can get me to and from Heathrow and back in the Winter with traffic and possible detour in 1 charge.
 
EVH said:
I.e. I wouldn’t fancy dealing with a battery that loses most of its capacity after a few years. Whichever way you look at it, you’re paying to replace the pack at ££££ or sell it (for less) with a known issue.
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Battery expert says 20 year life for the BMW (Samsung SDI) battery pack.
http://translate.google.com/transla...im-bmw-i3-das-ist-ein-gewaltiger-unterschied/

Samsung say 4600 charges to 80% capacity which would equate to 524,000 (theory of course!) miles.
https://insideevs.com/lets-look-at-the-specs-of-the-samsung-sdi-94-ah-battery/

Gives a bit more confidence anyway. I know Tesla batteries have been proven to lose 5-10% over 100,000 miles when looked after.

Down side is the i3 packs are divided into 8 large cell packs that are quite expensive to replace currently. Nissan are starting to offer an exchange service but they also have some bad drop off on certain models. Probably the packs without proper thermal regulation.
 
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