EV general discussion

SkodaMart said:
Works great while it’s a select few.
Wait until EVs are more widespread.
This is only a tiny fraction of the issue anyway - wait until your battery is borked on your 10 year old vehicle.
Many second hand car dealers refuse to deal with EVs for this reason.
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There are plenty of 10+ year old Tesla Model S and Nissan Leaf's still driving around on the OG battery. Sure, range is reduced, but they still work fine.

There are also many new second hand car dealers, who just deal with EV's
 
SKILL said:
Remind me why the national grid and energy suppliers have been paying people to not use electricity again? Is it perhaps because the wind was too low to generate enough electricity?

I'm not against renewables, I'm saying we need more... A lot more. Currently we have ~20GW of wind capacity (and actually currently generating a nice ~16GW), we need closer to 200GW of wind capacity. But that also means at times like this we'd have ~120GW excess generation.
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Cos its cheaper to do that than pay for coal.

Pretty simple logic.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Would having almost every household have solar panels and batteries help the whole country?
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I'd imagine so yeah, but some houses aren't really suitable for Solar - my main open roof faces to the North so kinda useless... Could get some on the other side but then even that is shaded in certain points of the day so meh. Battery wise it'd be really nice if cars/chargers started supporting V2G really, or even 'just' V2H. The MG4 I've ordered does V2L and could be used to an extent but it's awkward at best (requires new earthing, and can't charge and use the car to power the house at the same time etc) But having a ~60kW battery sat there most of the day would be useful I think.

Jonnycoupe said:
Cos its cheaper to do that than pay for coal.

Pretty simple logic.
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Still doesn't alter the point that wind is unreliable, again we should definitely be using wind but it is unreliable.
 
chanjy said:
lol of course not

In general though it will be good if we can get V2G going
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lol, yeah, very badly worded :p

What I meant was that it's two seperate cables to the car, one for charging, one for V2L, so would need to physically change cables between the two. Not that you can't charge at the same time obviously...
 
SKILL said:
lol, yeah, very badly worded :p

What I meant was that it's two seperate cables to the car, one for charging, one for V2L, so would need to physically change cables between the two. Not that you can't charge at the same time obviously...
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Not something I know a whole lot about tbh. Is it really going to be different cables? I know you'll need a specialised charger
 
chanjy said:
Not something I know a whole lot about tbh. Is it really going to be different cables? I know you'll need a specialised charger
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For V2L it would be cause it's really not designed for that. V2G is a single cable, my understanding is it'll include the two large DC pins so charging is basically as normal however discharging to power the house/grid is via DC to an inverter that matches the grid frequency... I think...
 
I’d love V2H here, I could utilise it very well I’d imagine. Car is practically sat from Mon-Fri on the drive, so if I could top up the 64kWh battery by Monday morning, our daily use for Mon-Thu/Friday could be covered by it, as we’re at about 10kWh/day, with even some (up to 5kWh depending on temp outside) of that always in the GO window at which point we could take from the grid anyway.
 
SDK^ said:
There are plenty of 10+ year old Tesla Model S and Nissan Leaf's still driving around on the OG battery. Sure, range is reduced, but they still work fine.

There are also many new second hand car dealers, who just deal with EV's
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Traded my 2014 Leaf in today. Still managed the 60 mile drive up to Manchester, with 17% charge left on arrival. So probably 70ish miles range, mostly motorway driving (temp 5°C to 8°C).

A year short of a decade old and yet far from scrap-worthy.
 
60 miles and 17% left?! Who on earth is going to buy a car like that?!
I would never even remotely consider a second hand EV, just like I wouldn’t ideally buy a second hand battery powered electrical item.

Are places really going to recycle batteries, or just chuck them in a bid landfill?
 
Shadowness said:
60 miles and 17% left?! Who on earth is going to buy a car like that?!
I would never even remotely consider a second hand EV, just like I wouldn’t ideally buy a second hand battery powered electrical item.

Are places really going to recycle batteries, or just chuck them in a bid landfill?
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A fair whack of the general UK public? Seeing as the average daily mileage is 20miles.
 
Kill_Phil said:
A fair whack of the general UK public? Seeing as the average daily mileage is 20miles.
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Not the portion of the general public who are smart enough, cough, ;) to compare it to a random small home battery using device
100% the best way to judge how a 10 year old EV will perform is to compare it to an iphone or a beard trimmer ;)
 
That was just a sport for old people out of touch isn’t it…

That’s pretty minor on the scale of response but directly proportional to how much a care. Have a great evening. :)
 
Shadowness said:
60 miles and 17% left?! Who on earth is going to buy a car like that?!
I would never even remotely consider a second hand EV, just like I wouldn’t ideally buy a second hand battery powered electrical item.

Are places really going to recycle batteries, or just chuck them in a bid landfill?
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Leaf's didn't have a lot of range to start with new, and they sold plenty of them.
 
McPhee said:
Traded my 2014 Leaf in today. Still managed the 60 mile drive up to Manchester, with 17% charge left on arrival. So probably 70ish miles range, mostly motorway driving (temp 5°C to 8°C).
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how was the car's battery report - did the garage do additional checks ?, reflected, in trade-in price agreed ... did they just want mileage
 
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