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Stu999 said:
Sorry, forgot to add - the reason for interest in public charging costs is I live in a second floor flat at the moment so no home charging :D
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Only do it if you have a reliable place to charge or plan to move in the very near future.

Public charging is very expensive (it could be as expensive as an ICE car at the moment plus you have a higher priced car) and I’ll be completely honest in that I wouldn’t do it without a drive/place to charge on my own terms.

I assume you can’t speak to the freeholder about getting points put in? There is a load of government money available at the moment that is there to be used for this scenario. It isn’t going to be increased, it will more likely go away in time.
 
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dLockers said:
Don't forget the last mile will become even more unprofitable so fewer stations. I mean we all know the answer - petrol will become increasingly expensive and only the poor will really suffer.
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Gasoline is a by product of the refining process so whilst the demand for gasoline will go down it will still be produced so will be available to all. It will be cheaper if anything as the Government will move to taxing electric cars more.
 
Guys,

I've been trying to source a Solo Pod Point 3 but they are super expensive. Is there any reason why I shouldn't consider a Project EV, or other brand?
 
dLockers said:
Guys,

I've been trying to source a Solo Pod Point 3 but they are super expensive. Is there any reason why I shouldn't consider a Project EV, or other brand?
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Different ones may require extra safety devices, as per my comment above. Do they require extra pen fault or earth rods are what you should be looking for.

If your car has good software you can avoid all the smart capabilities as you can use the cars scheduling.
 
FerretBoy said:
Different ones may require extra safety devices, as per my comment above. Do they require extra pen fault or earth rods are what you should be looking for.

If your car has good software you can avoid all the smart capabilities as you can use the cars scheduling.
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Not familiar with the words extra pen fault or earth rods. Is there somewhere I can look those things up and understand why I need to avoid/fix my house to use them?

My car has garbage software. Peugeot e2008. It barely works just setting it to delayed charge. There is a button by the "plug port" on the car that seems to indicate it puts it on timer but it does nothing either.
 
teenwolf said:
You bought a Peugeot or were gifted it ?
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lol I know mate... don't get me started.. it was all that was available on a "tax efficient scheme" my work run. It's ok aside from garbage software, no sat nav, crappy steering wheel, dodgy parcel shelf etc... it's great as an EV but possibly one of the least well designed IMHO.

The scam was I'd get it on salary sacrifice and get my wife to give me real money. So the redeeming factor was it "pays me" :cry: :cry:
 
dLockers said:
lol I know mate... don't get me started.. it was all that was available on a "tax efficient scheme" my work run. It's ok aside from garbage software, no sat nav, crappy steering wheel, dodgy parcel shelf etc... it's great as an EV but possibly one of the least well designed IMHO.

The scam was I'd get it on salary sacrifice and get my wife to give me real money. So the redeeming factor was it "pays me" :cry: :cry:
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I feel really bad now :)
 
teenwolf said:
I feel really bad now :)
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My mates pregnant wife almost tripped over the charger daisy changed on extension leads too. I'm their emergency call out tho tbf and if she could have squatted it on there and then it would have saved me a future 3am wake up call (god I hope their kid comes during business hours).
 
dLockers said:
My mates pregnant wife almost tripped over the charger daisy changed on extension leads too. I'm their emergency call out tho tbf and if she could have squatted it on there and then it would have saved me a future 3am wake up call (god I hope their kid comes during business hours).
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Haha don't day that my other half has 3 weeks left
 
dLockers said:
Guys,

I've been trying to source a Solo Pod Point 3 but they are super expensive. Is there any reason why I shouldn't consider a Project EV, or other brand?
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No, they all should have the same core functionality these days due to the new regs requiring smart chargers.

The only thing you need to look out for is if they need any additional equipment to instal then such as an earth rod or a PEN (aka earth) fault detection device as that increases the install costs. You need somewhere to put an earth rod or the fault detection devices are £130+.

If you look on the podpoint website you can see in the data sheet it lists “6mA DC Leakage, Over current, PME and failed earth protection”, that’s the gold standard these days.

For example a Tesla charger is cheap (about £450) but it lacks the earth fault detection so needs either its own earth rod or a separate detection device. Once you add that on they cost as much as something like a hypervolt that has it built in and had other features the tesla doesn’t.
 
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chroniclard said:
First foray into EV world, got an ID3 as courtesy car. First impressions......nope. :cry:
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The ID3 interior sucks - rubbish infotainment, touch buttons everywhere with critical functions having no backlight and low rent plastic.
Drives good though, for a medium sized town car.
 
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SDK^ said:
The ID3 interior sucks - rubbish infotainment, touch buttons everywhere with critical functions having no backlight and low rent plastic.
Drives good though, for a medium sized town car.
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Pretty fair summary.

If it has the upgraded matrix headlights, they are excellent. They are probably it’s most redeeming feature and the gold standard.
 
Ok, my in depth gut feelings/thoughts having driven it 8 miles. :cry:

Goes "ok", its nippy around town but not actually particularly quick(yeah I realise its not a sports car).
Feels like an MPV, not a good thing.
Interior is gash and feels haphazard.
Believe its a 1st edition, has 1st badges on it anyway, given the list price its disappointingly cheap feeling.
Quite nice to drive with one pedal.

Cant comment much more, just possibly rash first impressions. :p

However, I can see the potential if they make an actual hot hatch style performance version. :D
 
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I wonder if we will see the price of public charging drop back, the wholesale cost of non-domestic energy has just been capped at 21p. I’m guessing the actual price they pay will be higher as retailer margin will need to be added on top of that, then add on the margin for the charge point operator.


So what do we reckon, 50p at a rapid? (Still expensive mind).
 
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SDK^ said:
The ID3 interior sucks - rubbish infotainment, touch buttons everywhere with critical functions having no backlight and low rent plastic.
Drives good though, for a medium sized town car.
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This is why I asked the question. We have a Golf 8 R Line as a temporary car at the moment and I'm thoroughly unimpressed with how cheap it feels inside.

The controls are crap, some are touch, some look like touch but actually need to be pressed, the Infotainment feels no better or more user friendly than my older generation Skoda, the car is full of cheap hard plastics, the seats feel low rent, it's noisy etc.

It's really disappointing for something with a £25k list price. But important to appreciate when judging an ID3 as a first EV experience - it's VW that are churning out poor quality cheap feeling rubbish at the moment, it's not the fact it's the ID3 / an EV specifically.
 
We have a Cupra Born now (replaced the e208 which was a pile of steaming garbage), it's the lowest spec version but so much nicer than the ID3. We looked at both but the Born had a much nicer interior, and was also available straight away so a no brainer really.
 
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