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Three years ago I was able to get an HSE I-Pace for £400 on SS, or if I wanted to push the boat, an E-Tron GT for £500. Now a mid spec Kia EV3 is £400

Sorry yes, the 0% BIK and zero tax on luxury EVs now making a big difference.
 
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The tech also ‘levelled off’ years ago.

For example, the EV’s that everything seemly gets compared to is Model 3 or Y.

The Model 3 launched in 2017 in the US and a 2017 model is every bit as capable today as it was then and really isn’t that far off the pace today. The current model is a bit faster and has a more range but that’s about it. The Model Y is just a fat Model 3.


The government needs to get 7-8p/mile out of us at some point (fuel duty + VAT). If you can charge at home, they are getting circa 0.1p/mile out of you. They also need to wind out all the BIK they are missing out of and companies can also write off the cost of the car from their CT bill in the first year.
 
No Days of heaven still to come, saloon estate/hatch, 800V architecture, <1800Kg, 60/70KwH, rwd, renaissance dash/interior(chinese spartan), 2-speed for bragging rights, neue Klasse or CLA perhaps ?
(that's in my prayers, as well)
 
Clueless.

The cost is what is the main carrot here, all this new tech top end attributes does NOTHING to placate the cost. Unless everyone is buying the Range Rover Electric on your logic?
 
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I see GBeebies is banging on again about how EVs can have worse emissions than diesel cars. with a huge headline.
however on reading
it would appear it's a study just about brake particulate matter in general and isn't primarily about evs..... but there was just a throw away comment that EVs could be worse due to weight.

But the reality is the opposite as with regen most EVs rarely use the brakes....... who here who owns an EV have had to replace their brake pads through wear and tear (as opposed to being replaced due to age despite not being worn out)?

I have had to put new brake pads on all my past cars.....all accept my ipace (admittedly I have only had the ipace for 2 years but I am not expecting to need to any time soon) I would not be surprised if it's still on the factory pads even after nearly 54000 miles.

it is a dishonest take on the whole research but so many people will just see the headline and believe it.
 
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bigmike20vt said:
I see GBeebies is banging on again about how EVs can have worse emissions than diesel cars. with a huge headline.
however on reading
it would appear it's a study just about brake particulate matter in general and isn't primarily about evs..... but there was just a throw away comment that EVs could be worse due to weight.

But the reality is the opposite as with regen most EVs rarely use the brakes....... who here who owns an EV have had to replace their brake pads through wear and tear (as opposed to being replaced due to age despite not being worn out)?

I have had to put new brake pads on all my past cars.....all accept my ipace (admittedly I have only had the ipace for 2 years but I am not expecting to need to any time soon) I would not be surprised if it's still on the factory pads even after nearly 54000 miles.

it is a dishonest take on the whole research but so many people will just see the headline and believe it.
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The garage checked mine at it’s 36000 mile service and reckoned they were 10% worn - they will outlast the car I suspect!
 
According to MG you need to do a balancing charge every 3 to 6 months so I'm doing one now.
You take your car down to 10% which has taken me a week from 80% and then you charge to 100% and it balances the battery.
Quite surprised I haven't seen this mentioned on here unless someone thinks it's debatable..

When using the vehicle on a daily basis, it
is recommended to fully charge it at least
once a week, which is conducive to the
health maintenance of the high-voltage
battery pack; every 3 months to half a year,
a low-power (less than 10% or 1 grid) full
charged is performed.
 
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I naturally do mine now and again (when I go to my parents or my wife goes in hers to Peterborough.. however yes it's true it is good to balance the batteries. I think once a week full charge is a bit excessive (hell I only.charge mine from 30%-80% on average once every 2 weeks!). I do a full charge then down to empty and back to full about once every 4 months
 
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SexyGreyFox said:
According to MG you need to do a balancing charge every 3 to 6 months so I'm doing one now.
You take your car down to 10% which has taken me a week from 80% and then you charge to 100% and it balances the battery.
Quite surprised I haven't seen this mentioned on here unless someone thinks it's debatable..

When using the vehicle on a daily basis, it
is recommended to fully charge it at least
once a week, which is conducive to the
health maintenance of the high-voltage
battery pack; every 3 months to half a year,
a low-power (less than 10% or 1 grid) full
charged is performed.
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Don't forget to leave it a few hours after it has hit 100%, that's when the balancing starts.
You should be able to see the extra powerdraw on a smart meter if you don't have any other way to.
Well, this works for me when i get up for work and no one else is uo, using electrical items, as you can see the extra draw.
 
I just use the car normally, leave the seeting on 80% or 90% normally then stick it up to 100% when I've got a trip I need to do

Some people have way too much time on their hands plannign their charges :D
 
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SexyGreyFox said:
According to MG you need to do a balancing charge every 3 to 6 months so I'm doing one now.
You take your car down to 10% which has taken me a week from 80% and then you charge to 100% and it balances the battery.
Quite surprised I haven't seen this mentioned on here unless someone thinks it's debatable..
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Batteries with many cells need to be balanced, its not something new. The BMS will know the true top and bottom of the pack vs. what you see on to 0-100% scale, allowing the BMS to balance the cells properly will allow the pack to stay healthy for longer.
 
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chanjy said:
I just use the car normally, leave the seeting on 80% or 90% normally then stick it up to 100% when I've got a trip I need to do

Some people have way too much time on their hands plannign their charges :D
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But MG say in the manual it needs to be done and on the MG forums, why go against the recommendation?

I don't plan charges, it's just took a week to get it down to 10% from 80%.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
But MG say in the manual it needs to be done and on the MG forums, why go against the recommendation?

I don't plan charges, it's just took a week to get it down to 10% from 80%.
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I think MG use LFP for the base model and NMC for the higher version models. I imagine there might be two manuals as I believe you treat the battery different depending on if it's NMC or LFP? Might be why the forum has a differing opinion.
 
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Then follow what it says in the manual, simples.
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but chanjy says 'no' :)

Journey said:
Could have just put the heating on in it all day. :D :p
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The wife took it out at dinnertime to get 11% off it, I followed her on the tracking and she went all over the place with heating full on, electric heated seat full on, electric heated steering wheel and the window open because it was too hot in the car just to get the percentage down :)
What a waste of Kw.
 
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