I don’t know how to get the guy to stop. Help me
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If there's one thing more polarising than politics, it's electric cars
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They’re just bloody cars FFS.
But they're soulless and kill the planet and they're only for rich people and there's nowhere to charge them and and and...
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edit 2: ignore me - just being an *******.
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I’m not sure why you do that, did danger mouse tell you to? Anyway I’ll try harder:
Charged my phone to 90% today. Already on 45%. Just doing normal stuff
Is this the sort of posts we need ? Obvious car and phone interchangeable for the relevance it has to people who read it.
[ Personal view incoming:] Since going to 79kWh from 58kWh I do treat myself to heating now on longer trips mind you. Mainly cause I’m lazy to not stop and charge. But last time that caused a massive discussion about how everyone should do what the post created said and nothing else exists. /poster mode off. (This is what people wanna see right )
I think the crux of this whole thread is that EVs aren’t really much to discuss for petrol heads. Tends to be more like computer on wheels, regurgitated info (is that regen) and maybe that’s the issue. Ocuk computer enthusiasts vs petrolheads? And it’s frustrating when you share personal experience to be quoted and corrected by a link or a made up story
Charged my phone to 90% today. Already on 45%. Just doing normal stuff
Is this the sort of posts we need ? Obvious car and phone interchangeable for the relevance it has to people who read it.
[ Personal view incoming:] Since going to 79kWh from 58kWh I do treat myself to heating now on longer trips mind you. Mainly cause I’m lazy to not stop and charge. But last time that caused a massive discussion about how everyone should do what the post created said and nothing else exists. /poster mode off. (This is what people wanna see right )
I think the crux of this whole thread is that EVs aren’t really much to discuss for petrol heads. Tends to be more like computer on wheels, regurgitated info (is that regen) and maybe that’s the issue. Ocuk computer enthusiasts vs petrolheads? And it’s frustrating when you share personal experience to be quoted and corrected by a link or a made up story
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Soldato
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its okay, i missed it.
Sadly I don't think an appropriate hybrid exists for my use and they tend to add weight and complexity with current design approaches. The nearest hybrids to my requirements aren't plug in hybrids which is something I wouldn't go without personally. Which is annoying as my daily commute (30 minute drive with half of that on the A30 or A303) and having a large off-road parking area near power is prime EV territory, but also the ability to do a lot of miles on short/immediate notice sometimes on top of already having done a lot of miles that day is essential despite being a less often usage.
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That is basically online forums for you... if you can't deal with it maybe being online isn't for you. Also there is a big difference between someone just verbatim quoting something they've randomly found on Google and being provided with a link to a recognised source who is actually doing comparisons relevant to the topic.
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Yep totally understand that conundrum to be honest - I’m lucky to have a driveway so it’s not an issue for me. My friend however recently got a plug in hybrid and doesn’t have a driveway. He is already moaning about fuel consumption because he isn’t charging it - do your homework people!
Ironically you didn’t add any context to it, it didn’t support any point. Not that it was clear what pint you were trying to make. And finally you couldn’t even remember what the video was about. Amazing
Still don’t know why you dragged me into this by quoting and replying to me as if what I said was wrong.
Do the new gen of 20kWh battery 1.5 Petrol PHEVs from VW group not suit? 60-70 miles EV range to cover most local (and even not so local) driving backed up with a reasonable ICE drivetrain when you just have to do 400 miles non stop at a moments notice.
What is your usage case ? Apart from the commute ? Hybrids are often lighter than a full EV as the smaller battery helps offset the engine etc. a lot of the motors are now integrated into the gearbox too
A lot of China switching from EV to hybrid or REV which is interesting to watch how that plays out.
I've been put off VW of late, in recent years there has been an increase in problems, especially electrical, with them.
Though I'm not gone on the looks Nissan has a rebadged Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV coming to the US which on paper would be ideal for my needs but typically doesn't look like it will come to the UK market, though again the looks don't do it for me so I probably wouldn't rush to one.
OK, so an appropriate hybrid doesn't exist from a brand you like, rather than doesn't exist at all
I posted it in context of the topic of EV vs ICE in the snow and it wasn't what the video was about that I couldn't remember it was the conclusion as to the differences and/if one was better than the other, I posted it because it was directly relevant to what was being talked about (for all I could remember it might have been at odds with what I was saying from personal experience).
The last bit is your perception - you made a fairly off the cuff observation as to the relevance of weight and tyre size without committing to any specifics:
"How wide are the tyres. I think you are overdoing the aspect of EV. It’s a heavy car on thin tyres."
I wasn't saying you were wrong or right I just filled in with some commentary on the relevance of those aspects as well as adding in some information on the wider topic as per the chain of posts you were replying to.
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Isn’t this more to do with some Chinese manufacturers who are looking to export to the ‘west’ are producing more hybrids because that’s what is selling in western markets alongside their EV offerings.
If they weren’t exporting to the west, they wouldn’t be going down this route and that’s not what they are pushing domestically. China’s EV mandate makes ours look unambitious.