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Don't get the Masterplug. They claim to have thermal management and current throttling BUT they don't have a thermocouple in the most important part, the plug.

Ask me how I know as they say...



That doesn't look good, I was only wanting one to use in an emergency like at the caravan so I don't have to use public chargers but I'm guessing our static caravan doesn't have the higher rated plug sockets
 
Sorry if its been mentioned but how does the per mile tax affect company car drivers ? . It's going to add up for my wife's company she racks up anywhere between 2.5k to 3.5k per month.
 
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Sorry if its been mentioned but how does the per mile tax affect company car drivers ? . It's going to add up for my wife's company she racks up anywhere between 2.5k to 3.5k per month.
From 2028 (2 1/2 years away...)

IF she drives an electric vehicle, she will have to pay £1080 a year extra

I'm amazed anyone driving a BEV does 36,000 miles a year though. A PHEV probably makes more sense for that mileage and that would cost £540 for the same mileage.
 
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so wheres the EV incentive?
EV running costs : 2p per mile
The EV 'Expensive car tax' bracket is increasing from £40k to £50k next year. This saves £420 per year
The 3p Pay-per-mile comes into force from 2028.

Looks like fuel duty is being adjusted up from Sept 2026
 
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My screen wash is always bloody frozen and no engine to defrost it. Having to use it neat which costs a lot more. Lol

So far I've never had a problem with Bluecol diluted at about 3:1 water to screenwash, or 50/50 if it is forecast to be really cold - the only time I had a problem was right after a vehicle was serviced and the garage had put around half a tank of their own stuff in and it froze instantly when sprayed on the windscreen one night!
 
That doesn't look good, I was only wanting one to use in an emergency like at the caravan so I don't have to use public chargers but I'm guessing our static caravan doesn't have the higher rated plug sockets
A decent EVSE should have a thermocouple in the plug and turn down the charge rate. The Masterplug one claims to have thermal monitoring (even has a temperature display on the screen) but doesn't monitor the critical part, the plug. So I would highly suggest avoiding that particular model.

This one, for example, has a thermocouple in the plug so there is no need to compromise - https://ecoharmony.co.uk/products/5...9C-W8YC70zRidIl-R5705RzL-GmAlZi8FPvznUiltApHL

As for caravan use, no idea I'm afraid. I'd be cautious though.

Don't let my images put you off anything other than an EVSE without a thermocouple in the 3-Pin plug though. I stupidly didn't research it thoroughly enough and assumed that thermal monitoring meant the bit that mattered.
 
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The issue is mainly down to the socket, which is straightforward enough to replace with an EV rated one. I swapped out a double socket in my garage for one of these. All the sockets in there are surface mounted, so it was easy to just replace the 2 gang pattress box for a single. If thats not a option then adapter plates are available to allow a single gang socket to fit a double back box.
 
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Anyone care to guess where residuals for EV'S will be over the next few years other than fully round the U bend ? She's going to have to tax petrol/ diesel cars into stratospheric numbers for people change now - I'm sure it's coming ¡
 
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Turn it down to 8A and it should be fine unless the socket is completely ******.
A decent EVSE should have a thermocouple in the plug and turn down the charge rate. The Masterplug one claims to have thermal monitoring (even has a temperature display on the screen) but doesn't monitor the critical part, the plug. So I would highly suggest avoiding that particular model.

This one, for example, has a thermocouple in the plug so there is no need to compromise - https://ecoharmony.co.uk/products/5...9C-W8YC70zRidIl-R5705RzL-GmAlZi8FPvznUiltApHL

As for caravan use, no idea I'm afraid. I'd be cautious though.

Don't let my images put you off anything other than an EVSE without a thermocouple in the 3-Pin plug though. I stupidly didn't research it thoroughly enough and assumed that thermal monitoring meant the bit that mattered.
The issue is mainly down to the socket, which is straightforward enough to replace with an EV rated one. I swapped out a double socket in my garage for one of these. All the sockets in there are surface mounted, so it was easy to just replace the 2 gang pattress box for a single. If thats not a option then adapter plates are available to allow a single gang socket to fit a double back box.
It's a brand new static caravan (we've only had it a month) so don't want to go swapping sockets etc. so I think may have to force the wife to buy a decent cable as it's her car
 
Anyone care to guess where residuals for EV'S will be over the next few years other than fully round the U bend ? She's going to have to tax petrol/ diesel cars into stratospheric numbers for people change now - I'm sure it's coming ¡
Doubt it'll impact them at all. Come 2028 with the increase in fuel duty 3p will seem cheap per mile.


12k miles PA £360... Which will buy you 2.7k miles at 45mpg in an ICE at £6 a gallon. Add in the charging costs £480-600.
 
Doubt it'll impact them at all. Come 2028 with the increase in fuel duty 3p will seem cheap per mile.


12k miles PA £360... Which will buy you 2.7k miles at 45mpg in an ICE at £6 a gallon. Add in the charging costs £480-600.
What increase in fuel duty ?
 
My screen wash is always bloody frozen and no engine to defrost it. Having to use it neat which costs a lot more. Lol

Quite, I had this last week when we hit -6.1 degrees C on Friday morning. Why hasn't any car manufacturer (ICE or EV) stuck a small heater in the damn bottle? Additionally my charging flap was stuck open with compacted frozen snow and took me ages to chip it out before I could close it!!

So not only do we have this new tax on top of paying more VED than a huge amount of ICE powered cars on the road, those of us who charge at home and are on EV tariffs typically pay a lot more for daytime rates. I am on Octopus IG and my daytime rate is a whopping 32.17p per kWh so yet another penalty for going "green" and buying a EV.
 
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What increase in fuel duty ?
The 5p cut is from 2022 is only frozen until Sept 2026, then it'll start increasing

Fuel duty: 2026-27 main rates – The government will extend the temporary 5p fuel duty cut for a further five months, with the cut being reversed in three stages: 1p on 1 September 2026, 2p on 1 December 2026 and 2p on 1 March 2027. This will return rates to pre-March 2022 levels. The planned inflation increase for 2026-27 will not take place, with the government uprating fuel duty rates by Retail Prices Index (RPI) from April 2027.
 
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