EV general discussion

Eon EV tariff is fine, as long as you don't have SEG.
Eon limits the SEG rate to 6p/kWh if you have an EV tariff so that's definitely a no-go
 
bigmike20vt said:
My use case is when visiting family and friends. if I go up. Friday afternoon. At the moment I go up see my folks Friday , sat morning drive about see family (no home charging) then go to my mates sat afternoon who has an EV charge point in winter my car could be around 5% , and then put the 80kwh into my car whilst having some beers and what not then come back home Sunday brunch time .
this will now significantly increase in cost.
I am not saying it doesn't need to happen to remain viable for octopus, and not whining about it, just that there are very real scenarios not just hypothetical made up edge cases where prices are gonna go up a fair bit , and not just people gaming the system.
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What does your regular week look like? Would charging 6 hours when you get back not give you enough to get by on Monday, charge another 6 hours on Monday night etc and it’ll catch up as long as you’re not emptying the battery every single day.
 
Kenai said:
This is something Octopus really ought to have clarified with charger manufacturers that vary charge rates before going public regarding time based enforcement.

As it is, the response seems to have been "oh your charger does that? Well it's not us, we'll ask the charger manufacturer and see what they say"
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It does appear they have managed to overlook this rather large gap with chargers they recommend and fit.

Could that also be skewing their gaming customers numbers if they're just looking for people charging at lower rates for longer periods of time?
 
pastymuncher said:
Meanwhile charging the car, doing the washing and tumble drying last night was all done at their svr rate!! So much for excellent customer service!! Why couldn't they have just switched me? That's it, i'm done with these cowboys, who else does EV tariffs (not Ovo) for a similar price?
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You can raise a complaint, and explain the situation, they will normally credit your account for the costs you incurred if they made an error, and sometimes quite a bit more on top. Resolution at first point of contact is always the goal, but sometimes things don't go right, your 'cowboy' experience is not a common occurrence otherwise they'd be known as Scottish Power.
 
E-On was substantially cheaper for me compared to Octopus. Which was a shame as I wanted IOG to control my charger but as it's set up, EON have control over my car. I've only started plugging in each night now it's got cold so that it can pre-heat for the morning.
 
tom_e said:
Set it properly in what way? There's nothing for me to set other than the charge to add and ready time
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I mean an example if you ask for 30% more it might limit current to slow charge for 6 h. Often mine will drop to 4.3kwh if it’s in no hurry to meet set point.
 
Spleen Sauce said:
What does your regular week look like? Would charging 6 hours when you get back not give you enough to get by on Monday, charge another 6 hours on Monday night etc and it’ll catch up as long as you’re not emptying the battery every single day.
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sure... once I am home I am fine. but to actually get home esp in winter I need the car at 100% and that is less than 24hrs after it has been run down to essentially zero.

again I am not whining it is what it is but just giving examples of why requesting a massive charge isn't always gaming the system.
 
I don't think anyone has really suggested that one off big charges are gaming the tariff, it's people deliberately and routinely configuring their setup to force more smart charging slots than they actually need that constitute 'gaming'.

Unfortunately the people doing that have now potentially ruined things for the minority who may have had genuine needs to charge like that from time to time.
 
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2 people I know have already started the switch to EON. I am not going yet, I like octopus and without them I doubt EON would offer the package they do, but unless EON change their package to make it worse (which they could well do) I think a fair few may jump ship.
 
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I've looked at EON but it doesn't look like they offer the ability to link just the charger and our Kona isn't compatible with them either
 
tamzzy said:
Eon EV tariff is fine, as long as you don't have SEG.
Eon limits the SEG rate to 6p/kWh if you have an EV tariff so that's definitely a no-go
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What's SEG?

Just checked Eon and their Next Drive Fixed V11 is quite expensive for me, 30.17p per kWh peak, 7.5p per kWh off peak, 60p per day SC but they also load up the price of gas if you are on the EV tariff, 6.03p per kWh compared to 5.89p per kWh on their SVR. More checking around to be done I think.
 
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pastymuncher said:
Just checked Eon and their Next Drive Fixed V11 is quite expensive for me, 30.17p per kWh peak, 7.5p per kWh off peak, 60p per day SC but they also load up the price of gas if you are on the EV tariff, 6.03p per kWh compared to 5.89p per kWh on their SVR. More checking around to be done I think.
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If you don't have solar then eon next smart is the EV tariff you want. As long as you have a compatible car/charger
 
pastymuncher said:
What's SEG?

Just checked Eon and their Next Drive Fixed V11 is quite expensive for me, 30.17p per kWh peak, 7.5p per kWh off peak, 60p per day SC but they also load up the price of gas if you are on the EV tariff, 6.03p per kWh compared to 5.89p per kWh on their SVR. More checking around to be done I think.
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I had split suppliers for electricity and gas until Tomato went belly up. Complete non issue to do so despite what some sources on the internet say.

I'm not sure what the current Octopus tracker rates are like for gas but the one I'm on is pretty cheap compared to standard tariffs and it doesn't spike like the electric tracker rates can.
 
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The octopus related socials are really hot right now :p

Its not a huge cost difference is in reality, £8-9 on top of what you would have normally paid, still hugely cheaper than ICE. Octopus are probably waging the bigger users are mainly company car drivers, who will just make a little less money, but still be quids in.
 
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