EV general discussion

[Penfold101]

Do any of these cars have heated windscreens? We recently looked at a few new cars and none of them have heated screens anymore (Lexus, BMW, Mini). One of the salesmen said it was because the factory that made them was based in Ukraine and it got flattened in the war

Made this a few years ago as I wasn’t going anywhere and had free electric:

The 3 pin charger could not keep up with the heater

 

[OspreyO]

I've been on this topic for years lol

Where's the outrage... why so dramatic

My mistake I thought you were upset and needed to argue it out.

 

[OspreyO]

It blasts the front screen with the hottest possible air it can produce as fast as it can produce it.

It doesn’t do that when you are sat in it unless you tell it to.

That’s how it works in my car anyway.

I thought it it gradually heats up until departure time. Doesn't feel that it's full on. I have preheat only set to 22 or something.

Looking online I can't find any thing definitive. Some say existing damage, some say it's the heated windscreen, some day it's preheating. Bjorn did it on a Tesla but it looked like the was chip damage already. Hard to know.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I thought it it gradually heats up until departure time. Doesn't feel that it's full on. I have preheat only set to 22 or something.

Looking online I can't find any thing definitive. Some say existing damage, some say it's the heated windscreen, some day it's preheating. Bjorn did it on a Tesla but it looked like the was chip damage already. Hard to know.

It depends on how you achieve it:

If you use the defrost button in the app it absolutely hammers the heat as fast as possible, max temperature, max fans, max seat/wheel heaters and rear screen/mirrors de-mist.

If you turn on the climate or schedule It depends it will heat up much slower and only heat to the target temperature.

The former is where people can come unstuck with chipped screens.

 

[Armageus]

Truly Riveting content guys - do you want me to rename this thread to the "***Official EV Preheat discussion thread***" ?

 

[Junglist]

Spoken like a true window heater heathen.

 

[Haggisman]

Not all have a free app.

That seems like a flaw with a particular car rather than an inherent issue with preconditioning! I certainly wouldn't consider an EV without the ability to remotely heat/cool, as it's one of the major advantages IMO (and yes, before anyone points it out - I'm aware that there are a tiny handful of ICE cars which also have the functionality)

 

[chanjy]

That seems like a flaw with a particular car rather than an inherent issue with preconditioning! I certainly wouldn't consider an EV without the ability to remotely heat/cool, as it's one of the major advantages IMO (and yes, before anyone points it out - I'm aware that there are a tiny handful of ICE cars which also have the functionality)

Annoyingly, some makers make you pay after the initial period (usually 3 years or so) for the functionality. Wife's Cupra did that to her. It is a basic human right though and should never be paywalled, I agree

 

[Kenai]

Annoyingly, some makers make you pay after the initial period (usually 3 years or so) for the functionality. Wife's Cupra did that to her. It is a basic human right though and should never be paywalled, I agree

I think they've learned their lesson with that a little bit - key services like being able to activate pre-heating, control charging and so on are now included for 10 years, it's only the 'premium' stuff like online nav and destination import that expires after 3 years

 

[OspreyO]

That seems like a flaw with a particular car rather than an inherent issue with preconditioning! I certainly wouldn't consider an EV without the ability to remotely heat/cool, as it's one of the major advantages IMO (and yes, before anyone points it out - I'm aware that there are a tiny handful of ICE cars which also have the functionality)

Probably more common in ICE these days. Neighbours new Phev Volvo was preheating this morning.

Not so much a flaw with the car. But a subscription model for the software. I've heard some are bringing it in for music streaming on the car etc.

It's just hitting EVs first. I can see it rolling out to ICE eventually.

 

[Haggisman]

Probably more common in ICE these days. Neighbours new Phev Volvo was preheating this morning.

Not so much a flaw with the car. But a subscription model for the software. I've heard some are bringing it in for music streaming on the car etc.

It's just hitting EVs first. I can see it rolling out to ICE eventually.

An intentional flaw is still a flaw!

 

[OspreyO]

Well it's the future.

 

[Mysterae_]

I took the BYD Seal out in the snow today today to see how it would cope - not a problem. The AWD and it's snow mode made it a breeze, so much so that I'm considering not putting all season CC3's on when the time comes to replace the tyres.

 

[Diddums]

I took the BYD Seal out in the snow today today to see how it would cope - not a problem. The AWD and it's snow mode made it a breeze, so much so that I'm considering not putting all season CC3's on when the time comes to replace the tyres.

Did you preheat it first?

 

[Mysterae_]

Did you preheat it first?

Does a Seal poop in the sea?

 

[MrRockliffe]

I took the BYD Seal out in the snow today today to see how it would cope - not a problem. The AWD and it's snow mode made it a breeze, so much so that I'm considering not putting all season CC3's on when the time comes to replace the tyres.

Not sure how AWD and snow mode will help you brake

 

[Mysterae_]

Not sure how AWD and snow mode will help you brake

No need to brake if you can't get going in the first place .

I know what you're saying though, point taken!

 

[Journey]

I took the BYD Seal out in the snow today today to see how it would cope - not a problem. The AWD and it's snow mode made it a breeze, so much so that I'm considering not putting all season CC3's on when the time comes to replace the tyres.

Took the option to fit CC3S all round a month or so ago, I think even if I have AWD I'd go for them now again given how steep the location I live is, and the general surrounding area, did look at Hankook's as well. What function does the snow mode have in the Seal?

 

[turbot1984]

After putting up with an EV for two years

(i4 eDrive40 M Sport)​

this winter has been magic! I can now get roughly the same mileage as the rest of the year thanks to switching to 48v mild hybrid petrol tech.

 

[Rroff]

I took the BYD Seal out in the snow today today to see how it would cope - not a problem. The AWD and it's snow mode made it a breeze, so much so that I'm considering not putting all season CC3's on when the time comes to replace the tyres.

I'd still put all-season or winters on but AWD/4WD does make a surprising difference in the snow in reality, even though ultimately it'll come down to whether any tyre has grip at all, when I had summer tyres on my pickup in the snow in normal rear wheel drive mode it was slipping, while engaging 4WD and instantly it was composed (granted the fronts have more weight over them so that helps as well).

Especially if you don't have some kind of slip-start program like the Teslas and 1-2 other it would be a good idea to have all-seasons on anyhow as if/once you get beyond the ability of the transmission profile to cope it is a very different situation.