EV general discussion

Journey said:
Took the option to fit CC3S all round a month or so ago, I think even if I have AWD I'd go for them now again given how steep the location I live is, and the general surrounding area, did look at Hankook's as well. What function does the snow mode have in the Seal?
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I was impressed with the CSS2's on my previous BMW so know they're very capable tyres; for the EV it'll be how they impact the range and tyre noise. As for the Seal's snow mode and what it does I had to RTFM and it says "Snow mode is designed for slippery surfaces such as grass, snow, ice or gravel. It optimises the vehicle's traction, driving and handling performance", so yeah, I still don't know. It does illuminate a little light though to make you feel safer :D.
 
Mysterae_ said:
or the EV it'll be how they impact the range and tyre noise.
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All seasons don't always have the best rolling resistance which can be a non-negligible factor with an EV - the Bridgestone Turanza All Season 6 I have on the Qashqai have noticeably poorer rolling resistance than the other tyres I've had on there and IMO wouldn't be a good option for an EV on that front though overall I think they are pretty decent tyres.

EDIT: The CC3 Sport supposedly have decent rolling resistance so might be a good option, albeit not a cheap one, for EVs.
 
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Rroff said:
All seasons don't always have the best rolling resistance which can be a non-negligible factor with an EV - the Bridgestone Turanza All Season 6 I have on the Qashqai have noticeably poorer rolling resistance than the other tyres I've had on there and IMO wouldn't be a good option for an EV on that front though overall I think they are pretty decent tyres.

EDIT: The CC3 Sport supposedly have decent rolling resistance so might be a good option, albeit not a cheap one, for EVs.
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Unfortunately the CC3's in normal or sport variant aren't available in my size of tyre as yet, so it would have to be the CC2's at this point in time.
 
turbot1984 said:
After putting up with an EV for two years

(i4 eDrive40 M Sport)​

this winter has been magic! I can now get roughly the same mileage as the rest of the year thanks to switching to 48v mild hybrid petrol tech.
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What was the reason for changing from an EV and what Mild Hybrid did you go for?
 
Mysterae_ said:
Unfortunately the CC3's in normal or sport variant aren't available in my size of tyre as yet, so it would have to be the CC2's at this point in time.
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I had difficulty getting the CC3S rears as the car has a staggered setup with 285/35's on the rear - I ended up contacting Michelin to get the low down on availability as what a lot of tyre dealers had listed and what was actually available to buy from the distributors was just wrong for some reason. I know they've released a lot more size variants over the last month or two though. In terms of range reduction, I have seen no impact that is noticeable on day-to-day trips, the car seems as quiet or quieter on most road surfaces - will have more data to go on in the spring and summer to do a real direct comparison.
 
Australia is a country where at least half of the houses have large size lithium batteries due to their rapid uptake of solar, EV and other battery operated products.

But it's not without risk for the local fire services. The latest data released by the fire service shows that in the city of Sydney, there is one house fire every single day caused by large lithium batteries found in solar systems, EV's and other electric products like scooters and e-bikes.

Insurers are also now paying attention because these fires spread rapidly; so the data now shows in terms of cost, these fires cause 3x more damage to houses compared to conventional electric fires and this will result in insurance costs for houses going up.
 
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Grim5 said:
The latest data released by the fire service shows that in the city of Sydney, there is one house fire every single day caused by large lithium batteries found in solar systems, EV's and other electric products like scooters and e-bikes.
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Do you have a link to the data you're looking at?
 
Kenai said:
Do you have a link to the data you're looking at?
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This and there is also a huge difference between ‘large scale lithium batteries found in solar systems’ and the utter junk you get in e-scooters and bikes.

Likewise only* 45% of houses in Australia have solar and most of them don’t have home batteries currently because up until very recently, they had/have net metering (300k vs >4 million solar installs).

Most of those batteries have gone in within the last year or so thanks to government incentives and the rolling back of net metering.

Not to rubbish on your post or anything but ‘citation needed’.

*I say ‘only’ because it’s well below the ‘at least half’ claimed in the post but it is the highest penetration of domestic solar in the world.
 
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Kenai said:
Do you have a link to the data you're looking at?
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The source I suspect is the NSW Inquest in to battery fires:
www.abc.net.au

NSW inquest told how exploding lithium-ion batteries turned deadly

A NSW inquest has been told exploding lithium-ion batteries caused volatile fires killing three people in separate blazes within minutes.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
www.theguardian.com

‘Jet-like flames’: exploding lithium-ion batteries pose an increasingly lethal danger, inquiry told

Probe into malfunctioning ebike and e-scooter batteries, emitting flames and and toxic fumes, follows three deaths
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

6 wires a week across the entire NSW area, and as you read on, EVs and Solar systems don't feature..

Back in Early 2025 they had a spate of fires (eScooters/Bikes again) in one week and it made headlines..


Total AI FUD Drive by posting it seems?
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Not only that this is an electric car thread and well off topic…

How’s everyone’s pre-heating today? :p
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Lovely and toasty.. I did hesitate to click 'defrost' in the Tesla app this morning based on your previous musings, but then decided I'd risk a cracked windscreen to have a super heated cabin.. it went from -5C to +25C in 6 minutes! When I opened the door, a plume of water vapour appeared!


Journey said:
Assume you are talking about that Grim5 dude, he is a bot of some sorts.
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Yeah, makes sense, and a good example of how crap AI still is..
 
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Demon said:
Lovely and toasty.. I did hesitate to click 'defrost' in the Tesla app this morning based on your previous musings, but then decided I'd risk a cracked windscreen to have a super heated cabin.. it went from -5C to +25C in 6 minutes! When I opened the door, a plume of water vapour appeared!
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You sure it wasn't on fire :eek:
 
Grim5 said:
The latest data released by the fire service shows that in the city of Sydney, there is one house fire every single day caused by large lithium batteries found in solar systems, EV's and other electric products like scooters and e-bikes.
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This seems like one hell of a conflate. There's a huge difference between a shonky e-scooter being sold by scummy online stores like Amazon and Temu and an EV so lumping them together seems more likely to mislead than inform.

Widespread uptake of sodium-ion can't come soon enough though. Li-ion is safe when done properly but failures are very bad.
 
Grim5 said:
there is one house fire every single day caused by large lithium batteries found in solar systems, EV's and other electric products like scooters and e-bikes.
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Humorous side note - it makes me chuckle each time I read this sort of thing, as I imagine someone asking a genie for a solar system in their house.

Need to think these things through…
 
preheat - a plume of water vapour appeared! unless the car has a water leak inside or is animate, you are not going to see steam opening the doors, just off of the external body;
6 minute pre-heat - with snow?, is impressive though, my neighbours ICE was probably 15.

This mornings SMMT figures of ev record of 23% of new 2Mill cars(now back to pre-covid levels), are 2/3rds of those still company cars;
plus an industry subsidy on ev's of 5BN amounting to ~£10K per car, so we now know that the ev's sell into leasing market at £10K under rrp.
 

Fires by vehicle type

Questions to the Mayor: For each of the last five calendar years how many fires has the London Fire Brigade (LFB) attended for: a) electric motorbikes, b) electric pedal cycles, c) electric scooters, d) fossil fuel cars, e) electric cars, f) hybrid cars, g) fossil fuel buses, h) hybrid buses...
www.london.gov.uk www.london.gov.uk

Guess what!!

More than 1 fire a day in London caused by petrol/diesel vehicles!
 
chanjy said:

Fires by vehicle type

Questions to the Mayor: For each of the last five calendar years how many fires has the London Fire Brigade (LFB) attended for: a) electric motorbikes, b) electric pedal cycles, c) electric scooters, d) fossil fuel cars, e) electric cars, f) hybrid cars, g) fossil fuel buses, h) hybrid buses...
www.london.gov.uk www.london.gov.uk

Guess what!!

More than 1 fire a day in London caused by petrol/diesel vehicles!
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Well, they are combustion vehicles…
 
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