The vans are heavier and a lot less aerodynamic. I’m sure ground up electric vans will improve, but I can’t see them cracking 300 miles anytime soon.
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The vans are heavier and a lot less aerodynamic. I’m sure ground up electric vans will improve, but I can’t see them cracking 300 miles anytime soon.
I think only the Mercedes VAN.EA (platform) has range comparable to diesel vans - but the delivery dates on those seem to have been knocked back and again - possibly coming in early 2027 - was one of the options they were looking at at work but there has been some *drama* and the whole things seems to be off at the moment.
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The new electric vans the tesco delivery have seem very nippy, am seeing them regularly at roundabout on regular run .
Maxus eDeliver 9 i 80kwh batterries & only 2,4T + 1t payload range fits the bili I guess.
Maxus eDeliver 9 i 80kwh batterries & only 2,4T + 1t payload range fits the bili I guess.
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Just done first long trip in my polestar2, Newcastle to Liverpool using A69&M6, constant 60mph on the a69 and constant 65mph on the M6 got 228 watt hours per mile or 4.39 miles per kWh, pretty impressed with its economy.
Ye it does i guess
Nice bit of kit - but requires megawatt charging! to turn it around in a decent amount of time.
It doesn't. A 'normal' 350kw charger is enough to recharge these things during a normal driver break.
Great if you can operate in that battery window and have 350kw chargers in the right places. Sure things will improve over time but again it ignores the reality of how many companies operate vs an idealised model.
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You're right, the vast majority of trucks do short runs from depot to depot or drop-off location and are not limited by driving hours - ideal for electric.
This guy does long-distance in all-electric trucks on the continent https://www.youtube.com/@electrictrucker
It's really not an insurmountable problem at all, the biggest barrier is insane public charging costs in the UK.
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So do you think when there's enough of these across the country that the KWPH will be cheaper or it will just cost as much or more as filling a tank of unleaded. This is the UK 300 miles will cost you £60 charging away from home. When it all settles down and 90% of us are driving EV's the cost per mile unless you charge from home and the tax will be the same or likely more than it is now.
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It’ll be whatever is needed to fill the government bank accounts.
This is my push back - I'm not anti-EV but just because it works for one person or business doesn't mean it will work for everyone. There is a huge range of usages across the industry and great where they can replace short runs, etc. but that is only part of the story - there is still plenty of HGV usage >100 miles and around 15% is long haul over 250 miles.
Must be a joy to drive compared to the current incumbent fleet. 0.52miles per kWh is pretty good considering the weight full loaded and the sheer wind brick they are.
It's not just one guy. He works for a large haulage company that is transitioning its fleet to electric, as many others are on the continent.
Long distance is no problem for the eActross 600 and it isn't even the longest range truck on the market. His channel documents him covering one end of Europe to the other. That's also not the EU, the continent of Europe.
As much as the government talks the talk, the sad truth is the UK is just well behind when it comes to electrifying trucking. Germany already has 350 truck sites and has more in build. We've got ~6. That said we are not going to need as extensive of a network as Germany or France because the distances in the UK are tiny by comparison but still 6 is just embarrassing.
No one is suggesting it will be electrfied over night, but we have not even started on the low-hanging fruit.
UK haulage companies will start losing out to EU based competitors who can do things for lot less money, while the UK drivers are held hostage to diesel prices due to Agent Orange. The blame will be placed... TBC.
It isn't just having the range - long distance trucking often involves a long haul and putting up for the night somewhere random and less than ideal often with a then unpredictable schedule onwards - without the end to end infrastructure there to support that in the UK it is a whole lot harder than it sounds on paper (hence quite a bit of the drama going on at work currently).
Company turned up today to collect the Hyundai.
Asked me where the charging cable is - to which I told them it didn’t come with one.
They’ve told me they can’t take the car without a charging cable. So it’s still on the drive.
I am SO glad I haven’t kept it. The most disorganised company I have ever dealt with.
Genuinely cannot understand the lack of intelligence sometimes.
Asked me where the charging cable is - to which I told them it didn’t come with one.
They’ve told me they can’t take the car without a charging cable. So it’s still on the drive.
I am SO glad I haven’t kept it. The most disorganised company I have ever dealt with.
Genuinely cannot understand the lack of intelligence sometimes.
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