Caporegime
Has to be. No way Everton get this and City absolutely nothing.
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Everton and zero money - Updated 17/11/23
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Has to be. No way Everton get this and City absolutely nothing.
I've got more faith we'll get out of it this year than last. We're in form, second from bottom and 2 points from safety.
I'm interested in what punishment they're going to give City next though as surely that has to be proportional. Clowns.
I actually don't think it is. You're still only a couple of points from safety and are a better team than those around you with DCL back.
I can't see how they can possibly do this to Everton and not also throw the book at City, but I'm sure they'll find a way.
Caporegime
I think Everton will be fine, partly because the 3 promoted side can't score in a brothel and doesn't look like it is going to change any time soon. I would think Everton would have been an easy mid table (45-50pts) side without this deduction. I can't even see the 3 promoted clubs to get 50pts between them.
Soldato
Great stuff, now void all of City's silverware.
Caporegime
Probably the best season for this to happen given how **** the bottom teams are. Still expect Everton to survive
Caporegime
Yeah Everton will be fine. The amount of big teams that went down last season has benefited them. They have gotten really lucky.
I am hoping the floodgates will open now and City and Chelsea get their own penalties.
I am hoping the floodgates will open now and City and Chelsea get their own penalties.
Caporegime
I'm not convinced
The other 3 teams are garbage.
So Everton will continue to stink up the premier league
Soldato
10 point deduction for basically obliterating FFP, the premier league have now set the precedent, can’t see city or Chelsea getting anything more than a 20 point deduction for their massive breaches, I can see other teams now saying “**** it” if that’s what the penalty is.
Soldato
This. Everton aren't doing badly at the moment. The 'real' bottom 3 are horse dung.
Really? If you deduct 20 points from City's total spread across the last few seasons, it's enough to take all of their titles away from them from 2018/19 onwards. That would be a pretty hefty penalty.
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Caporegime
The consequences for the likes of City need to have a direct impact on their revenue streams to really make a difference.
A ban from European football, for example, will decimate big sponsorship deals and make it extremely difficult to buy another £100m player in the next few seasons.
Point deductions, which will probably be reduced on appeal, won't do anything unless they are applied to previous seasons, which will never happen.
You need mechanisms that break down the foundations they've built up over years of cheating, as they're now in a spot where they don't need to fudge the numbers as much, if at all.
A ban from European football, for example, will decimate big sponsorship deals and make it extremely difficult to buy another £100m player in the next few seasons.
Point deductions, which will probably be reduced on appeal, won't do anything unless they are applied to previous seasons, which will never happen.
You need mechanisms that break down the foundations they've built up over years of cheating, as they're now in a spot where they don't need to fudge the numbers as much, if at all.
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For one season but the money they will have spent will benefit them for a generation. 10 points is a joke imo.
Soldato
My point is if you break the FFP rules you should be relegated, or have points deducted that would put you in real jeopardy of being relegated, a 20 point deduction will not scare city or Chelsea
I largely agree. On the flipside, if as seems to be the case a significant amount of the "appeal" of putting money into teams like City is for sportswashing and PR purposes, that investment may seem a lot less appealing if it is consistently and clearly called out as breaching financial rules, even if the penalties for doing so are relatively minor.
Caporegime
Any chance we see lawsuits from clubs relegated last season?
I very much doubt that City will get any sort of point deduction, Citys legal team is too
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Now watch the premier league happily give the OK for us to be taken over by suspected fraudsters 777.
FFP is so dumb, it’s the least fair thing in football and massively benefits clubs who were already successful pre FFP.
It’s like “here you go lads, we’ve come up with a great way to stop anyone else ever breaking into the elite and the best part is we can blag that it’s all about saving clubs like Portsmouth etc”
FFP is so dumb, it’s the least fair thing in football and massively benefits clubs who were already successful pre FFP.
It’s like “here you go lads, we’ve come up with a great way to stop anyone else ever breaking into the elite and the best part is we can blag that it’s all about saving clubs like Portsmouth etc”
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