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EVGA Pascal cards hotspot problem

Rusko187 said:
Is this issue isolated to a specific model of EVGA card or could it be across the board? I have the founders edition which been monitoring recently got up 85degrees last night on GPU core.

I downloaded the EVGA software for altering the fan speed and adjusted the curvature so it kicks in sooner but I need to test it tonight.
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Founders Edition is 100% unaffected as these cards are made 100% by Nvidia with no modification by EVGA.

The list of cards affected is fully detailed here:

http://eu.evga.com/thermalmod/

Thanks
Ben
 
Ben, can you confirm for me that my SC which I have now fitted the EVGA Hybrid kit to, has sufficient cooling on VRM's and no further modification (thermal Pads or VBIOS) is required?
 
Note to evga reps:

If you're putting together a thermal pad guide, at least do it properly. Suggesting to reapply the thermal compound left exposed before the pad install against the heatsink is plain daft for a user doing this in their home. It renders using a lint free cloth almost pointless by the time the user has removed both thermal pad protective plastic coverings and it's fitted - there will be dust in the compound.
 
Simon Belmont said:
Thanks mate.

I just worry about everything. These cards were very expensive and it should be worry free, but they're not. I'm om my 2nd card as it is and was thinking oh no here we go again and needed a 3rd :(
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Yes. Most expensive item I have ever installed. When it was in and lighting up, the thought was greeat that is it, this not moving until I have the cash and need for a replacment.

Whats confusing me is this seems to have moved from an optional update (pads) to an essential update (bios).

As I have over £700 worth of card I would run with the cautious perspective that both may be essential. Or at least I don't think I would be comfortable without both options.

R.M.A or self fix. Less than happy with either option. I take it this is also going to increase the noise level which was a major consideration with buying the card in the first place.

My first Evega card, unless Evega can pull something siginifcant out of the hat in the future to sweeten this somewhat bitter pill, its the first and last for me.
 
efish said:
Yes. Most expensive item I have ever installed. When it was in and lighting up, the thought was greeat that is it, this not moving until I have the cash and need for a replacment.

Whats confusing me is this seems to have moved from an optional update (pads) to an essential update (bios).

As I have over £700 worth of card I would run with the cautious perspective that both may be essential. Or at least I don't think I would be comfortable without both options.

R.M.A or self fix. Less than happy with either option. I take it this is also going to increase the noise level which was a major consideration with buying the card in the first place.

My first Evega card, unless Evega can pull something siginifcant out of the hat in the future to sweeten this somewhat bitter pill, its the first and last for me.
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You don't need the BIOS update at all if the thermal pads are installed. No increased noise as a result if you use the default fan profile.

From the single test result I've seen, the thermal pad mod with the standard fan profile reduces the temps by around 10c extra at the hottest point compared with a card with no thermal pads and the updated fan profile. This is around 1600rpm vs 2200rpm. The BIOS update is a cheap cost effective fix for EVGA, however it massively increases the noise of the card.

The best solution for gamers with overclocks would be the mod with a custom fan profile still. The best solution for benchers would be to not buy the card at all :D

I'm fairly set on fitting the pads, upgrading the core compound on the re-fit and keeping the original BIOS so that upon resale the user has a quiet card without needing to go custom profile. A card with stock fans and the pads installed should still have a slightly lower hotspot temperatures compared with a card with no pads on 100% fans.

At 70c I'm currently using 70% fan speed with this increasing to around 75-80% at 74c. I believe the updated profile out tomorrow? is around 80% at 70-72c which is bordering on too noisy for me. Correct me if I'm wrong on this last point - seems unclear currently.
 
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I've been tempted with a 1070 so been keeping eye in this thread

What will new EVGA 1070 and 1080 be design wise

Just bios mod or bios and extra thermal pads

Presumably as not necessary now just the former ?
 
"You don't need the BIOS update at all if the thermal pads are installed. No increased noise as a result if you use the default fan profile."

Thought crossed my mind but based on no information.

"What happens if my card is accidentally damaged during the optional thermal pad installation?
A. EVGA will stand behind its customers with full warranty and cross-shipment."

I just noticed this. Makes things easy to swallow. I can start to see where the reputation for good customer support comes from.

Go with the pads wait for some more information on noise before considering the bios update.

Being paraniod I have been running on the aggressive profile since this started and kept the card at stock clocks. Its over the border of too noisy for my taste, could live with it some of the time if I had an increase in clocks and speed but not at stock.
 
Buckster said:
I've been tempted with a 1070 so been keeping eye in this thread

What will new EVGA 1070 and 1080 be design wise

Just bios mod or bios and extra thermal pads

Presumably as not necessary now just the former ?
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Might be thermal pads - might be uprated parts with higher temperature tolerances and/or better layout for heat dissipation depending on how much say they have over board design.
 
Quite a few of the EVGA cards have a dual BIOS so there's a failsafe if the update goes wrong. Even after updating a custom fan profile could still be used to lower the noise level.
 
Buckster said:
I've been tempted with a 1070 so been keeping eye in this thread

What will new EVGA 1070 and 1080 be design wise

Just bios mod or bios and extra thermal pads

Presumably as not necessary now just the former ?
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Sure it was stated all new models are going to be fitted with the pads. If that is the case I suspect they would not want to use an older bios as it would be a source of potential confusion.

Personaly with all respect to Evega, if I had not bought my card, I would be looking to see which manufacturer's had resolved this issue at the initial design stage rather than as a retro fix.

Saying that the plus with Evega does seem to be ongoing support, which is important.

If you have the luxury of time see how it plays out.
 
I suspect EVGA are now working on the ACX 4.0 cooler.

VRMs will be actively cooled. That's what most other manufacturers do, and with good reason.
 
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Albaba said:
Ben, I'm still not clear on what I will receive if I set up an advanced RMA?
Will the card I receive be:

A. New
B. Have the thermal mod already installed
C. Have the new bios installed.

Before doing any kind of RMA or swap I would need these points clarified.

Thanks again for any info.
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A. As above not 100% confirmed yet.
B. Yes
C. Yes

Ben
 
Five.Stars said:
Ben, can you confirm for me that my SC which I have now fitted the EVGA Hybrid kit to, has sufficient cooling on VRM's and no further modification (thermal Pads or VBIOS) is required?
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Hybrid Kit has sufficient cooling, this cooler is not on our list of cards we recommend any changes for at all.
 
Thanks for the update Ben, if you could let me know when point A is confirmed or not that would be a great help. If this was a £100 gfx card then i wouldn't be bothered, but this is the single most expensive piece of pc hardware I have ever bought in the last 20 years..........

Albaba
 
Surely anyone either over clocking their card, or running SLI will already have their own fan profile set up?

In my case... I played around with the fan settings (case side panel off) to see at what point the ACX3.0 fans become noticeable. Up to 60% (double what it currently runs at 70C) they are all but inaudible over my case fans (all very quiet Gentle Typhoons). 60to70% they start to be noticeable, over 70% (at least in a Lian Li aluminum case) they are definitely noticeable.

My fan curve is passive up to 30C, then increases to 50% at 60C and then onto 70% at 70C and on to 100% at 90C. Gaming temps (Witcher 3, Deus Ex MD) sit around high 50's to low 60's. Fans tend to be spinning around the 50% mark and I'll be damned if I can hear them. So that's shaved off a good 10C from the stock curve. Plus when the load is removed, the fans take longer to come to a full stop and hence hopefully continue to dissipate any trapped heat on the PCB.

Only my thoughts folks.
 
Ivan

This might be of interest to you.

Yet another sticky thread has appeared on the official EVGA Graphics card forums and in it, at the bottom of the first post, is this:

Q. What happens if my card is accidentally damaged during the optional thermal pad installation?
A. EVGA will stand behind its customers with full warranty and cross-shipment.

Nice to know. Good on EVGA.
So nothing really to stop anyone from trying to do this mod (if they want to) :)
 
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