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EVGA terminates relationship with NVIDIA
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The question is, if Nvidia did away with all their aibs, would people really care as long as Nvidia make good products/coolers and charge them competitively to the competition? Aside from having more choice and possibly better coolers + warranty/CS, I can't think of many serious downsides.
I used to be all about the aibs but the FE cooler/design changed my mind and I've read that amds reference design for rDNA 2 is also very good, which made the aib models less appealing too.
I used to be all about the aibs but the FE cooler/design changed my mind and I've read that amds reference design for rDNA 2 is also very good, which made the aib models less appealing too.
Nvidia sell the GPU dies to AIB's, for whatever they ###### like, Nvidia also set how much AIB's can sell the end product for.
With that in mind Nvidia's margins have gone from 38% to 65%, during the same period AIB's margins have gone from 25% to 5%.
AIB's have been complaining to tech journalists that Nvidia are charging too much for their GPU's, Nvidia's principle partner have quit Nvidia.
And some of you guys are still trying to shift the blame away from Nvidia on to suffering AIB's? What has Jenson done for you to deserve that level of loyalty?
With that in mind Nvidia's margins have gone from 38% to 65%, during the same period AIB's margins have gone from 25% to 5%.
AIB's have been complaining to tech journalists that Nvidia are charging too much for their GPU's, Nvidia's principle partner have quit Nvidia.
And some of you guys are still trying to shift the blame away from Nvidia on to suffering AIB's? What has Jenson done for you to deserve that level of loyalty?
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No one is denying that it is a scummy move from nvidia but if nvidia keep pricing their gpus in the same region as their competitors and making good products, does it really impact "you"? Unless you need an AIB model for a specific reason?
But as I said, I don't get emotionally involved in companies worth billions and their business tactics as long as it has no impact on the end product and my enjoyment from said product:
Same way I keep buying samsung android phones over any other model despite their practices and near monopoly on the android market, they simply make good products that meet my needs for a good price.
So you're saying Gibbo was lying then and OCUK were adding 1k+ onto the Gpus?Nvidia set the price AIB's pay for GPU's and the price they sell them for.
How do you explain companies like MSI, Gigabyte and ASUS all making record profits at the same time the Gpus were hugely inflated?
Also if nvidia was unwilling to cut AIBs pricing then how come their own margins dropped from over 65% to around 43% in their last earnings report.
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WTF does OCUK have to do with AIB's margins? do you not understand how any of this works? Its not difficult.
Do you think once AIB's are gone Nvidia will continue to sell you founders edition cards for less than those AIB's would have done with those 5% margins?
Serious quetion because the sense i'm getting from you is "good guy Nvidia squeezing AIB's for everything they have, they would never do that to me"
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Remember, it's about selectively picking what you want to hear and to suit the agenda
Simple answer is I don't know and won't be overthinking/worrying about the "potential" outcome but as I said, I don't get emotionally involved in companies worth billions, if nvidia do, I simply skip nvidia and see what rdna 3 brings, if it matches my needs/wants for a certain price, I'll buy them instead, same way I have owned amd since the 3850, my decision and who I spend my money on simply comes down to the product, nothing more. Worst case scenario, I stick with the 3080 for the foreseeable future.
That and what Joxeon said, I don't think it's quite as black and white as you are portraying with the margins.
What do you think will happen if nvidia do overcharge and rdna 3 wipes the floor with them, be that product performance or/and price front.... Bear in mind, that the desktop gpu space is nvidias main sector, if they do try what you think is going to happen, I imagine, we'll see a pretty huge decline in nvidia "mind/market share" and their profits drop substantially and amd gain substantially, in which case, do you think nvidia will react by dropping their prices or risk their company going under?
Unless that affected every single 3070 TI Fe, then it's just a bit of bad luck. What about the state of the original MSI 3080 release with the awful power connectors that were breaking or not fully connecting to the PSU?
Remember, it's about selectively picking what you want to hear and to suit the agenda
Simple answer is I don't know and won't be overthinking/worrying about the "potential" outcome but as I said, I don't get emotionally involved in companies worth billions, if nvidia do, I simply skip nvidia and see what rdna 3 brings, if it matches my needs/wants for a certain price, I'll buy them instead, same way I have owned amd since the 3850, my decision and who I spend my money on simply comes down to the product, nothing more. Worst case scenario, I stick with the 3080 for the foreseeable future.
That and what Joxeon said, I don't think it's quite as black and white as you are portraying with the margins.
What do you think will happen if nvidia do overcharge and rdna 3 wipes the floor with them, be that product performance or/and price front.... Bear in mind, that the desktop gpu space is nvidias main sector, if they do try what you think is going to happen, I imagine, we'll see a pretty huge decline in nvidia "mind/market share" and their profits drop substantially and amd gain substantially, in which case, do you think nvidia will react by dropping their prices or risk their company going under?
You care enough to run a defence campaign for Nvidia, if you didn't care we wouldn't see you here doing that, you are more emotionally involved than any of us.
I'm not portraying any margins, i'm quoting what the margins are, don't for a second pretend JPR make this stuff up to bolster my argument, like Jon Paddie is a personal friend of mine.
You see it as defence because of your amd loyalty/preference stance, hence all your threads on how intel/nvidia are bad and certain tech journalist are clueless because they rate some aspects of nvidia or/and intel over amd, same way you stopped updating the benchmark thread in the cpu section because intel released their new cpus and they wiped the floor compared to amd, which meant raven had to start a new thread to update the results, same way you're glad intel arc failed/got axed.....
I'm simply asking you how does this impact you if nvidia were to axe all their aib partnerships as long as they keep providing good products for a competitive price? Nothing more, nothing less.
And more importantly, what are you going to do to stop the big bad nvidia should they go down the path you are thinking?
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No one has said anything at all about AMD, this is nothing to do with AMD, every thread on this forum where AMD are never mentioned YOU bring them up. every single time.You see it as defence because of your amd loyalty/preference stance, hence all your threads on how intel/nvidia are bad and certain tech journalist are clueless because they rate some aspects of nvidia or/and intel over amd, same way you stopped updating the benchmark thread in the cpu section because intel released their new cpus and they wiped the floor compared to amd, which meant raven had to start a new thread to update the results, same way you're glad intel arc failed/got axed.....
I'm simply asking you how does this impact you if nvidia were to axe all their aib partnerships as long as they keep providing good products for a competitive price? Nothing more, nothing less.
And more importantly, what are you going to do to stop the big bad nvidia?
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In my OP where did I mention amd or compare nvidia margins to amd?
Remember, it's about selectively picking what you want to hear and to suit the agenda
Simple answer is I don't know and won't be overthinking/worrying about the "potential" outcome but as I said, I don't get emotionally involved in companies worth billions, if nvidia do, I simply skip nvidia and see what rdna 3 brings, if it matches my needs/wants for a certain price, I'll buy them instead, same way I have owned amd since the 3850, my decision and who I spend my money on simply comes down to the product, nothing more. Worst case scenario, I stick with the 3080 for the foreseeable future.
That and what Joxeon said, I don't think it's quite as black and white as you are portraying with the margins.
What do you think will happen if nvidia do overcharge and rdna 3 wipes the floor with them, be that product performance or/and price front.... Bear in mind, that the desktop gpu space is nvidias main sector, if they do try what you think is going to happen, I imagine, we'll see a pretty huge decline in nvidia "mind/market share" and their profits drop substantially and amd gain substantially, in which case, do you think nvidia will react by dropping their prices or risk their company going under?
It was you who brought this bit in:
Hence my reply on your stance with amd and why all their competitors are so bad... i.e. anyone that competes against amd is "BAD!!!" hence the "defence campaign" rubbish
The whole forum know your stance with amd, just head over to see the DC chat when it comes to humbug and amd discussions
Hence why I asked again this with no mention of AMD:
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Again, I have not said anything about amd in the topic at hand bits so why do you keep saying this?
Here I'll quote the main question bit again:
Where is amd mentioned in that?
It's right there in black and white for people to read and see how you made this an "nvidia fanboy" thing as usual:
EVGA terminates relationship with NVIDIA
This was what Gibbo said last year. Some of the 3090's have increased by nearly $500 from the AIB, distributors also no doubt making higher margins. Of course were also not listing products at 5-12%, because supply and demand, were hovering around 20% but in reflection of that we are shipping...
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How do i add him to my ignore list? maybe if he knows i can't read his post he will stop turning this thread in to his personal tool to try and provoke me in to his nonsense circular arguments.
Serious question i don't actually know.
Serious question i don't actually know.
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Ah yes, when can't address someone's points/questions.... use the good old ignore feature
All because you can't/won't answer that
Maybe someone who doesn't have rose tinted glasses can answer the above?
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Must be about the sixth person at least to have realised, but welcome and lets move on!!
So what were you saying about
Keynote is in a couple of days so lets see what detail is out then.