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EVGA terminates relationship with NVIDIA

robin66 said:
Damn, that sucks. So, I'm guessing they sold a lot of their stock to the crypto miners as well then?
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NV sold to miners so why wouldn't they?
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humbug said:
I just bought a new 165Hz HDR screen.

Its a Free-Sync Premium screen, however you turn that on it turn HDR on, and it turns out i don't like the HDR image quality, the screen is a little washed out in normal mode, its even more washed out in HDR made, or Free-Sync Premium mode, (to my eyes anyway) when you turn it on it disables the RGB settings along with a bunch of other settings, and i use RGB ecte... to tune the screen to how i like it.

So in tuning the screen to how i like it i can't use Free-Sync Premium.

So, i have to rely on a setting in the Nvidia control panel called "Fast Sync", and in all honesty i cannot tell the difference between using that and Free-Sync, there is 0 screen tearing with Fast Sync, even at 30 FPS or 300 FPS, nothing, its perfect.

So there it is, something i like about Nvidia, Fast Sync, its ###### brilliant, whats more, i actually need it if i'm to continue using the screen how i like it.
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From what I understand, If it's below 165fps, it's just VSync with addition lag. From Blurbusters
However, the less excess frames are available for the third buffer to sample from, the more the latency levels of Fast Sync begin to resemble double buffer V-SYNC with an FPS Limit. And if the third buffer is completely starved, as evident in the Fast Sync + FPS limit scenarios, it effectively reverts to FPS-limited V-SYNC latency, with an additional 1/2 to 1 frame of delay.


Unlike double buffer V-SYNC, however, Fast Sync won’t lock the framerate to half the maximum refresh rate if it falls below it, but like double buffer V-SYNC, Fast Sync will periodically repeat frames if the FPS is limited below the refresh rate, causing stutter. As such, an FPS limit below the refresh rate should be avoided when possible, and Fast Sync is best used when the framerate can exceed the refresh rate by at least 2x, 3x, or ideally, 5x times.
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Does Freesync "compatible" mode not work, or whatever it's called? Seems a bit rubbish the monitor would force you to use HDR if you're using freesync, what monitor is it?
 
robin66 said:
Damn, that sucks. So, I'm guessing they sold a lot of their stock to the crypto miners as well then?
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This roughly translates to, (you spent 22 months in a queue because the price you locked in was much cheaper than what we were able to sell to miners for but now mining is down the toilet and GPU prices are crashing can you please buy one of our cards now)
 
Joxeon said:
This roughly translates to, (you spent 22 months in a queue because the price you locked in was much cheaper than what we were able to sell to miners for but now mining is down the toilet and GPU prices are crashing can you please buy one of our cards now)
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Yeah. They can shove it where the sun don‘t shine.
 
Don't think I ever recovered fully from owning an evga N680i motherboard. I stopped counting after four replacements.
 
loftie said:
From what I understand, If it's below 165fps, it's just VSync with addition lag. From Blurbusters

Does Freesync "compatible" mode not work, or whatever it's called? Seems a bit rubbish the monitor would force you to use HDR if you're using freesync, what monitor is it?
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LG 32GN600-B

It is a monitor thing, if i turn Free-Sync Premium on it greys out:

Contrast
Gama
Colour Temp
R/G/B
Six Colour
Black Level
DFC
1ms Motion Blur Reduction
Black Stabiliser
Response Time

So you cannot make any adjustments to the image.
I don't know why the ______ it would do that.
Its a nice screen but to my eyes the image lacks punch, its very flat, its difficult to describe, i like vibrancy in the colour, it has very deep black and very bright white whites but the colours tho seemingly accurate are just a bit bleached and muddy, again to my eyes, i use R/G/B to brighten it up and it looks fantastic after tweaking it, turn Free-Sync Premium on and it puts it all in to default and locks you out.
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I don't mind a 1 Frame latency, i don't play many FPS games these days, as i say it completely eliminates screen tearing at any refresh-rate and it behaves like V-Sync off, i like it, i think its a good alternative to Free-Sync / G-Sync, i can't tell the difference so... :)
 
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Joxeon said:
They're both bad but it's only EVGA that are pretending to be good.
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Probably true, I do think Nvidia treat their partners poorly just because it can. Evga probably jumped now since they will be back to minor margins without covid and chip shortages to inflate prices.
 
www.digitaltrends.com

Nvidia CEO’s response to the EVGA controversy may surprise you

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang has responded to the recent EVGA controversy. He also talked about the recent export restrictions.
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Nvidia CEO’s response to the EVGA controversy may surprise you​







By Monica J. White September 22, 2022 7:45AM



Jensen Huang, the CEO of Nvidia, spoke about the recent controversy regarding Nvidia and EVGA. As a reminder, EVGA has made a grand exit from the GPU market, citing Nvidia’s treatment of it as the reason.


According to Huang, the situation was much less dire than it initially seemed, and Nvidia tried to shield its partners from the uncertainties of the current market.

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Nvidia has had a turbulent week or so. First, EVGA announced that it would stop making GPUs, and reports say that Nvidia was the cause. Next, the RTX 40-Series was announced, and the pricing of these GPUs left much to be desired. Lastly, Jensen Huang himself confirmed that GPU prices would not drop lower anymore. Now, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang has responded to the EVGA controversies in a subtle, conciliatory way.


As reported by Windows Central, Huang spoke to the press and talked about both the EVGA issue and the export restrictions made by the United States government. Despite the difficulties, Huang seems optimistic that Nvidia has a good quarter ahead and that it will come out on top.

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Huang confirmed that it was EVGA’s decision to part ways with Nvidia, but the way he put it, it seems like that was the plan for quite some time.


Referring to EVGA CEO Andrew Han, Huang said, “Andrew wanted to wind down the business and he’s wanted to do that for a couple of years. Andrew and EVGA are great partners, and I’m sad to see them leave the market, but you know, he’s got other plans that he’s been thinking about for several years. And so, that’s about it.”


Huang then went on to say that “the market has a lot of great players,” so it will continue to be served well even after EVGA leaves. EVGA’s complaints about Nvidia cover things such as being out of the loop on architectural developments and pricing, and Huang addressed these issues as well, by saying that Nvidia was trying to shield its add-in board (AIB) partners from the current market situation. This includes price increases and the difficulty of procuring components given the various supply chain problems.


During the pandemic, the lead times to placing a purchase order on a wafer went up drastically; from 16 weeks to a year and a half. At the same time, the demand for new GPUs rose dramatically. As a result, Nvidia ordered a lot of inventory in advance, but now, the market has slowed down. However, Nvidia didn’t burden its AIBs with the cost of the extra inventory it now has laying around.


Jensen Huang said: “We ordered the components no matter what, so our AIBs are agile. And we carried the vast majority of the inventory when the market was really hot. Our selling price was all exactly the same, never moved $1. Our component costs kept going up, but we absorbed all of the increases. And we passed $0 on to the market.”


Nvidia’s CEO also elaborated on the steps the company took to retain its position and its earnings after the market demand for GPUs dropped: “The combination of the commitments that we made, which led [Nvidia] to write down about a billion dollars worth of inventory. And then secondarily, we put a few hundred million dollars into marketing programs to help the channel reset its price. I think between these two actions that we took a few months ago, we should be in a good spot in Q4 as Ada ramps hard.”


Huang also seems undeterred by the recent trade restrictions that the U.S. government has instated in regard to GPU exports to China. Nvidia thinks that the majority of its customers are not going to be affected by the new restrictions, and it expects to be able to comply with them while still serving the Chinese market according to the current demand.


The way Nvidia’s CEO puts it, it sounds like the EVGA situation may be less controversial than it initially seemed. We’ve also heard reports that EVGA’s profits were much lower than those of other AIBs, which may have made the decision easier to make. However, we will likely never know the full story, and it’s hard to tell how much bad blood there might really be between the two companies.
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What i take away from that is "nothing to see here" and Jenson expects a good quarter from RTX 4000 series.

He inflated ##70 class cards from $500 to $900, yep, i can see how in his mind Nvidia wins. As always.
 
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Jensen: "Nvidia didn’t burden its AIBs with the cost of the extra inventory it now has laying around"

Yea right...we are supposed to to believe that from a company which literally semi-forced their AIB partners to buy Nvidia over-produced/excessive 1060 chips at a time close to EOL and at the end of the previous craze?

AIB partners "had the option" to not take those 1060 chips, but at the risk of being tossed to the back of the queue for receiving 3000 series chips and not have 3000 series graphic cards available at launch (based on the passive aggressive threat from Nvidia).

I'm surprised how many people don't seem to remember this incident...
 
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