EVGA terminates relationship with NVIDIA

[Gregster]

The reasons to buy an AIB rather than vanilla card is the same as it's always been. Better cooling, quieter, higher clocks,, better thermals, better design aesthetic (if that's your bag), bigger choice, better warranty, diverse range of OC tools, etc etc etc. Sure the 30 series stock cooler was good but it's still not as good as what aftermarket offered.

Whilst I understand and respect EVGAs decision, this is bad for consumers in the short and long term.

Genuine question. Which other AIB cards should I be looking at now? I've only bought EVGA since switching to Nvidia in 2015. Who does a good warranty that's accessible for UK users?

I tend to look at warranty as well as cooling. Zotac are actually very good and not sure if they still do but did give a 5 year warranty

 

[CuriousTomCat]

Then I guess you can add Intel, AMD, Samsung, Qualcomm and Apple.

I do hope that Sinclair Spectrum lasts you a good few years more.

You can't put AMD in the same basket as Nvidia.

When Nvidia acquired 3DFX, they refused to release Voodoo driver updates. Proof that Nvidia don't care about it's customers.

When AMD acquired ATI, they continued releasing Radeon driver updates for a long time.

 

[Freddie1980]

Like everyone else, I don't get why they don't give Intel a shot (average chips aside) or at least partner with AMD. Seems like there's something missing.

The trouble is AMD makes far fewer cards then Nvidia and they would have to dilute there GPU allocations thinner by taking away share from other partners. Why risk ******* off long term partners like Sapphire and Powercolor just to accommodate EVGA?

 

[humbug]

lol stop defending Nvidia, it's embarrassing. Nvidia take too much margin for AIBs to make a decent profit, ask yourself how much margin they are on for EVGA to make a loss on a $1300 GPU. Nvidia then under cut the AIBs with their FE and screw them over. I can see why EVGA don't want to put up with anymore of Jensen's ****. Nvidia is and will always be a scummy company.

Exactly this, EVGA are losing money on a $1300 card, Nvidia are charging so much for the GPU's board partners have 0 margins, its not just EVGA saying this, other board partners are telling Steve Burke and Jay the same thing.

Nvidia have 65% margins, higher than anyone, much higher.

 

[Aretak]

The trouble is AMD makes far fewer cards then Nvidia and they would have to dilute there GPU allocations thinner by taking away share from other partners. Why risk ******* off long term partners like Sapphire and Powercolor just to accommodate EVGA?

Because EVGA are a much bigger name than any of AMD's exclusive AIBs, especially in North America. They're the outright largest AIB there is in that market from what I've read. I have no doubt that AMD would be happy to have them on board if they were interested, because it'd be a huge boost to the profile of Radeon cards. I don't think they're really worried if that annoys XFX or PowerColor, because EVGA would simply be a much more valuable partner. Hell, they allowed ASRock to start making Radeon cards a few years ago and they have nowhere near the same brand value. The sticking point seems to be that EVGA simply aren't interested and want out of the GPU business altogether.

 

[humbug]

EVGA said they would never make AMD motherboards.

And then AMD started selling 3X more chips in retail than Intel..... https://eu.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=121-VR-A577-KR

I have an EVGA PSU, its great, my next one will be EVGA again.

What a beautiful thing this is...

 

[Cyber-Mav]

EVGA said they would never make AMD motherboards.

And then AMD started selling 3X more chips in retail than Intel..... https://eu.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=121-VR-A577-KR

I have an EVGA PSU, its great, my next one will be EVGA again.

What a beautiful thing this is...

Evga is going under so i wouldnt be buying their stuff due to no warranty etc when they are gone

 

[Tired9]

Evga is going under so i wouldnt be buying their stuff due to no warranty etc when they are gone

Or buy and revel in the fact you have hardware that no longer has a manufacturer, it will become rare especially if you don't open it.

 

[humbug]

Evga is going under so i wouldnt be buying their stuff due to no warranty etc when they are gone

EVGA are not going under, what they have done is cut out the unprofitable business, they have a lot of profitable options open to them, They have a wide range of PSU's, they could expand the range of coolers, peripherals, cases and motherboards, they could venture in to making Laptop's, screens, Gigabyte and MSI have recently launched their own screens and they are quite good.

They don't need to be sweating to line Jenson's pockets with money, like they said, it was an easy decision, they might not even be the last.

 

[uscool]

never owned any EVGA products but hear good things about the support and letting you transfer warranty with used cards , never really liked the aesthetics of the current gen cards

 

[V F]

EVGA said they would never make AMD motherboards.

And then AMD started selling 3X more chips in retail than Intel..... https://eu.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=121-VR-A577-KR

I have an EVGA PSU, its great, my next one will be EVGA again.

What a beautiful thing this is...

10 year warranty on both my power supplies from them. One from 2014, 1200w Platinum?

Most others were 3 - 5 years if that. My decision getting them was once checking out Johnny Guru's reviews on them for ripple issues and spike stability.

The reasons to buy an AIB rather than vanilla card is the same as it's always been. Better cooling, quieter, higher clocks,, better thermals, better design aesthetic (if that's your bag), bigger choice, better warranty, diverse range of OC tools, etc etc etc. Sure the 30 series stock cooler was good but it's still not as good as what aftermarket offered.

Whilst I understand and respect EVGAs decision, this is bad for consumers in the short and long term.

Genuine question. Which other AIB cards should I be looking at now? I've only bought EVGA since switching to Nvidia in 2015. Who does a good warranty that's accessible for UK users?

There is one benefit to the Founders Edition I've heard. Waterblocks come out quicker for Founders over having to wait quite a while for AIBs.

As for warranties in the UK these days, it appears none. Gigabyte UK was once a really good turnaround but Gigabyte seems to have went the way of the others I've read. A long tedious process. Even still, EVGA was no more UK with Brexit that your stuff had to go to Germany and if I remember correctly, there were fees once that happened? Which I think that happened in 2019.

 

[Tired9]

EVGA GTX 480.
EVGA Z68 SLi
EVGA GTX 670 SC (Terribly loud blower cooler)

That's the only EVGA stuff I owned, they were good but other brands would have been just as good too.

 

[humbug]

10 year warranty on both my power supplies from them. One from 2014, 1200w Platinum?

Most others were 3 - 5 years if that. My decision getting them was once checking out Johnny Guru's reviews on them for ripple issues and spike stability.




There is one benefit to the Founders Edition I've heard. Waterblocks come out quicker for Founders over having to wait quite a while for AIBs.

As for warranties in the UK these days, it appears none. Gigabyte UK was once a really good turnaround but Gigabyte seems to have went the way of the others I've read. A long tedious process. Even still, EVGA was no more UK with Brexit that your stuff had to go to Germany.

Mine is an EVGA Supernova 650 GS, 80+ Gold, fully modular, £95 at the time but after a bad experience with an XFX PSU i thought i should spend a bit more and go for higher quality, no regrets on that, it had a 6 year warranty, which is about to expire.
Its essentially a SeaSonic unit, like you i was carefully reading reviews and it did well in those, good tight voltage ripples and all that...
The PSU is a very important part of your system, it powers everything, if its good you will have a smooth, efficient, dependable system, which is exactly how everything i've had plugged in to it over the years has behaved.

EVGA are getting my money when it comes to replacing the PSU, if they expand in to a lower range of motherboards i might even get one of those when the time comes.

Edit: 5 year warranty not 6, so its now out of warranty.

 

[Besty]

Nvidia is the big loser here.

Nobody makes and markets GPU products like EVGA do.

There's a ton of unsold 3xxx inventory in the channel and EVGA have been left holding the baby on wafer-thin margins.

 

[Purgatory]

Nvidia is the big loser here.

Nobody makes and markets GPU products like EVGA do.

There's a ton of unsold 3xxx inventory in the channel and EVGA have been left holding the baby on wafer-thin margins.

EVGA have also stated that all 3000 inventory will be all gone by the end of the year, so I doubt they have a lot left and they will be holding back some for RMA reasons too, so I don't think they have a problem with inventory.


More of a problem with 4000 series (expecting them to cost more to make, sell and lower margins for AIBs) crippling them even more with Nvidia's tactics they have been pulling on AIBs and their FE pricing drops, the 3090ti price drop to almost 50% of MSRP is a horrible move by them to their AIBs that they know are on tiny margins. That move said enough about Nvidia and how they take the micky out of their highest end customers too, I would have been mad if they pulled that trick on me if I had purchased a 3090ti, the 3090s FE never got a price drop as they went out of stock even before the 3090ti FE came into stock and never came back.

They have not only upset the AIBs with that move but their customers that purchased 3090ti's, distributors and retailers that were left holding stock that they paid a lot more for but had to sell them at less or wait for rebates from Nvidia, it was a really dirty time in graphics cards sales 2020-2022, never seen anything like it in all my years how disgusting the behaviour was from many from scalpers, miners, distribution companies, AIBs and retailers, but nothing says it better than MSI that was scalping their own cards on ebay under another company name (karma got them with a fire at their manufacturing).


Also remember when EVGA had lots of GPUS stolen too :- https://www.notebookcheck.net/A-sto...-turns-up-at-an-NVIDIA-retailer.591622.0.html

The whole gpu market became criminal really.

 

[Frenzy]

I think it's crazy they priced so the AIBs had to sell high then undercut the AIBs themselves, full on nuts.

 

[V F]

Mine is an EVGA Supernova 650 GS, 80+ Gold, fully modular, £95 at the time but after a bad experience with an XFX PSU i thought i should spend a bit more and go for higher quality, no regrets on that, it had a 6 year warranty, which is about to expire.
Its essentially a SeaSonic unit, like you i was carefully reading reviews and it did well in those, good tight voltage ripples and all that...
The PSU is a very important part of your system, it powers everything, if its good you will have a smooth, efficient, dependable system, which is exactly how everything i've had plugged in to it over the years has behaved.

EVGA are getting my money when it comes to replacing the PSU, if they expand in to a lower range of motherboards i might even get one of those when the time comes.

Edit: 5 year warranty not 6, so its now out of warranty.

It is indeed. As you can still read issues of people having framerate issues of those skimping out on much cheaper power supplies. Or even to the extent of the OCP as well as issues I've heard of some people having inconsistent mouse movements in games. Or even some RFI/EMI issues. After all, the power supply is really to an extent the car ignition/engine.

That was another thing I was always reading about power supplies was making sure it had good defensive circuitry. If it goes bang one day, it only takes itself out. None of my other parts. Thankfully all the power supplies I've had has did just that.

 

[Besty]

 

[Purgatory]

Sapphire are the EVGA for AMD cards, so I find it hard for EVGA to really be involved that way unless they work with Sapphire to make like some special kingpin editions for them under the EVGA name as a collaboration. Who knows really, they may just go down a different route with the company and use their talented staff to make new products that maybe more aimed at business, like servers. I could actually see EVGA doing that well as there is a lot of demand for server gear.

 

[S_D]

10 year warranty on both my power supplies from them. One from 2014, 1200w Platinum?

Most others were 3 - 5 years if that. My decision getting them was once checking out Johnny Guru's reviews on them for ripple issues and spike stability.




There is one benefit to the Founders Edition I've heard. Waterblocks come out quicker for Founders over having to wait quite a while for AIBs.

As for warranties in the UK these days, it appears none. Gigabyte UK was once a really good turnaround but Gigabyte seems to have went the way of the others I've read. A long tedious process. Even still, EVGA was no more UK with Brexit that your stuff had to go to Germany and if I remember correctly, there were fees once that happened? Which I think that happened in 2019.

Mine died on day 2 so EVGA handled shipping costs both ways to Germany. Also there aren't customs fees when EVGA do the paperwork correctly and define it as 'warranty' rather than anything else and the customs agents read the paperwork correctly.