External Trunking + Cabling

psd99 · 6 Feb 2021 at 15:36

Yep that’s it
Nearly everyone working on cat 6/7 don’t seem to have fond memories lol

i also think after creating this thread
That might be best to run it with cable clips

i was hoping someone know what that capping/trunking was for cctv system
Cables
I think that looks neater than bare cables

psd99 · 6 Feb 2021 at 15:37

Quartz said:
Just round a wall or underground to a shed or garage?

It is up and alongside a wall
Ie from ground floor into the loft area

There are no bends and turns
Except when the wires come into the walls

Quartz · 6 Feb 2021 at 16:32

psd99 said:
It is up and alongside a wall

Since you're running quite a few cables, if you want to disguise them while protecting them then run the cables in some drainpipe.

psd99 · 6 Feb 2021 at 17:31

Yes drainpipe mmm that’ll look weird though.

fobose · 6 Feb 2021 at 17:33

Here is a pic from my CCTV install. I ran 3x cat6 external cables and to keep things looking as neat as possible, I used a terminal box with some flexible conduit that is cable tied behind the drainpipe. It was the neatest solution I could think of.

psd99 · 7 Feb 2021 at 07:23

nice I don't actually have drain pipe near the area
the only pipe is the toilet waste pipe

fobose · 7 Feb 2021 at 09:28

What is it you are actually trying to do? Do you have the option to run the cables up in to the loft from within the house and drop them down in to the rooms you need or out of the soffits in the roof near the locations required?

rubberduck · 7 Feb 2021 at 10:24

Maybe post some pics OP?

psd99 · 7 Feb 2021 at 11:11

fobose said:
What is it you are actually trying to do? Do you have the option to run the cables up in to the loft from within the house and drop them down in to the rooms you need or out of the soffits in the roof near the locations required?

basically looking to convert the loft into an office/bedroom
need to run some ethernet + coaxial cables from my networking switch + DAB amplifier from under the stairs.

I could run the cables internally it could be an option by chasing the wall out in the hallway, but it'll be really messy.

fobose · 7 Feb 2021 at 13:14

Ah ok, no real easy way to do it by the sounds of it. If you go the external route, would the cables come out on the ground floor (understair cupboard)? If so you could run them low around the house to hide them until you get to a downpipe?

I have a newish build town house so my master bedroom and ensuite is in the loft. I could not get a network cable up to the top floor in any easy way. I should have run a cable last year when I had AC installed as I had scaffolding above my garage to access the loft above the master bedroom. Hindsight for you.

psd99 · 7 Feb 2021 at 13:42

fobose said:
Ah ok, no real easy way to do it by the sounds of it. If you go the external route, would the cables come out on the ground floor (understair cupboard)? If so you could run them low around the house to hide them until you get to a downpipe?

I have a newish build town house so my master bedroom and ensuite is in the loft. I could not get a network cable up to the top floor in any easy way. I should have run a cable last year when I had AC installed as I had scaffolding above my garage to access the loft above the master bedroom. Hindsight for you.

yes they would come out of the ground floor, I could potentially keep them really low and then push them behind the sewage downpipe? great idea that wouldn't look so bad
or possibly internally get as close as I can to the downpipe and bring them outside there.

yes always good to get the wires done when it's all broken up. I wish I had done this ages ago

fobose · 7 Feb 2021 at 14:14

I have about 50mm wdith of gravel all around the back/side of my property so I actually ran my cables under that. I had to scoop all the gravel out first, and I dug down a bit deeper (60-70mm IIRC).

This is the entry point in to the side of my garage for 2x IP camera's. I've only got this pic of the one cable installed but I ran a second one (mainly as a backup). I've connected some APC gigabit surge protectors to each cable within my office (where they connect to my network equipment), just in case. The kenable external cat6 cable I used specifically mentioned you could bury it.

psd99 · 7 Feb 2021 at 15:07

fobose said:
I have about 50mm wdith of gravel all around the back/side of my property so I actually ran my cables under that. I had to scoop all the gravel out first, and I dug down a bit deeper (60-70mm IIRC).

This is the entry point in to the side of my garage for 2x IP camera's. I've only got this pic of the one cable installed but I ran a second one (mainly as a backup). I've connected some APC gigabit surge protectors to each cable within my office (where they connect to my network equipment), just in case. The kenable external cat6 cable I used specifically mentioned you could bury it.

nice - how many cables could u get into that plastic pipe and also what is that pipe? that looks neat imo

Hyburnate · 7 Feb 2021 at 15:13

It's kopex/flexible conduit, it comes in 20/25 & 32mm varieties, for Cat5e you should get 4 in 20mm and 6 in 25mm.

fobose · 7 Feb 2021 at 15:23

As above. I would say go with the 25mm though if you need more than 3 cables as it will be a real chore trying to pull all 4 through. I used the 20mm conduit and 20mm flexible conduit from screwfix. Codes below.

50443 - tower 20mm flexible conduit
7980P - tower 20mm heavy gauge conduit 3m
69178 - tower 20mm terminal box