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Eyefinity vs 3d

Will you actually be using either eyefinity or 3D? If so you may find either of those cards a little lacking, depending on your image quality expectations...
 
For a start you need three monitors for eyefinity obviously and one 5850 will not have the grunt to run at eyefinty rez and give playable FPS, now the 460 can do surround vision but you need SLI, performance will be better than one 5850 powering three monitors. I would go 460 for 3D and look in to going SLI for a three monitor setup down the road.
 
eyefinity gets you something which can be good but you don't really need providing you have a decent sized screen

3D gets you something which gives you more immersed in the game

eyefinity gets you screen space, 3D means it's more realistic
 
eyefinity gets you something which can be good but you don't really need providing you have a decent sized screen

3D gets you something which gives you more immersed in the game

eyefinity gets you screen space, 3D means it's more realistic

well actually filling ur peripheral vision is immersive as well, just a toss up which kind of immersion you want. If i had to choose again i would still go for being able to see more rather than being able to see the same amount.
 
What games will you be playing ?

That will probably determine whats the best choice...

I will mostly be playing games like MW2 that is why the ATI is so tempting as well and will definatly be going etheir sli or crossfire in the future how ever i can do up 4 with ati but only two with the GTX 460 so is two GTX 460 enough for anything in future lets say 5 years
 
I will mostly be playing games like MW2 that is why the ATI is so tempting as well and will definatly be going etheir sli or crossfire in the future how ever i can do up 4 with ati but only two with the GTX 460 so is two GTX 460 enough for anything in future lets say 5 years

No card's really good for the next 5 years. 2 years is generally the absolute most you'll get out of a graphics card and high end games.
 
I'm not bothered about that, but my point on it still stands, it's very hypocritical to complain and say I'm ATi biased when you yourself seem nVidia biased, and have no issues with people being nVidia biased. In reality, I'm not biased "to" ATi, I simply dislike nVidia for various reasons. If it wasn't just nVidia and ATi, then you'd see more clearly that I dislike nVidia over liking ATi.

As I've said in the past though, many times, I actually really like 3D gaming, I just think it's not for me at the moment because it gives me a headache very quickly.

I prefer Nvidia at the moment yes, but purely because they offer more.
Like I've said many times in the past I'll give ATi another go if or when they can give me the most eye candy possible.
I'm not about to give up 3D and physX because for me gaming on my pc is all about having as many magical graphics options as possible,
you simply don't get them all with ATi, and I'd also probably feel like I was missing out on something :p a prime current example is PhysX in mafia 2.

I've no idea why you've got this irrational dislike for Nvidia, imo you're just biting your nose off to spite your face.
By not buying Nvidia for whatever underhanded naughty stuff they've done in the past is hardly going to effect them in the grand scheme of things is it now?
The only thing it's doing is limiting yourself to one video card vendor :)
 
I prefer Nvidia at the moment yes, but purely because they offer more.
Like I've said many times in the past I'll give ATi another go if or when they can give me the most eye candy possible.
I'm not about to give up 3D and physX because for me gaming on my pc is all about having as many magical graphics options as possible,
you simply don't get them all with ATi, and I'd also probably feel like I was missing out on something :p a prime current example is PhysX in mafia 2.

I've no idea why you've got this irrational dislike for Nvidia, imo you're just biting your nose off to spite your face.
By not buying Nvidia for whatever underhanded naughty stuff they've done in the past is hardly going to effect them in the grand scheme of things is it now?
The only thing it's doing is limiting yourself to one video card vendor :)


I don't see "PhysX" as being worthwhile, and it's hardly an irrational dislike. I don't like the way they act as a company, so I don't buy from them. I'm not trying to "do" anything to them by doing so, I simply don't want to buy their products if they continue being the way they are.

You might like the way "PhysX" looks, but I think it looks quite poor generally, and a GPU is definitely not needed to calculate the effects currently being used. Additionally, if you liked how PhysX is so much, you'd be massively in favour of an open standard unrelated to nVidia or ATi. Proprietary technology in such an environment isn't good for anyone.

PhysX is crap becasue no dev is going to use it in a game extensively enough to be only playable on an nVidia graphics card because they're closing out a huge customer base.

You may feel that nVidia offer you far more, but that's your opinion, you can't take issue with me over it because you feel like you're missing out.

And again, I've said I like 3D, but firstly, it gives me a headache, secondly, I'm not buying an nVidia graphics card because price to performance ratio is poor, and secondly, I already have 3 monitors that aren't 3D compatible.

If an open standard for 3D came out tomorrow that worked on 60Hz monitors and didn't give me a headache, I'd love it.

And again, I'm all for opinions and stuff, but you can't say I'm limiting my self to one graphics card vendor when you've just gave me list of why you do the same yourself.
 
No card's really good for the next 5 years. 2 years is generally the absolute most you'll get out of a graphics card and high end games.

I still use my 8600GT to this day which is a 4 year old card.
So I cant play the games on the highest settings, but it does the job until I save up to get an upgrade.



As in response to the OP, I saw a video of a guy playing GRID with all the settings on max (apart from AA) using a 5770 in Eyefinity, so I am pretty sure that a 5850 could run MW2 with most, if not all, the settings on max, even when using Eyefinity.
 
For a start you need three monitors for eyefinity obviously and one 5850 will not have the grunt to run at eyefinty rez and give playable FPS, now the 460 can do surround vision but you need SLI, performance will be better than one 5850 powering three monitors. I would go 460 for 3D and look in to going SLI for a three monitor setup down the road.

Depends what games you are playing, I have 1 5850 and run 3 22 inch screens in eyefinity for rFactor and Race On, maxed out graphics and it runs fine.
 
I wouldn't base the choice on 3D Vision v eyefinity - while I consider both fairly gimmicky 3D Vision is the least useful tho the cooler effect.

If the choice comes down to eyefinity v nVidia surround then go with surround as its the more mature technology and historically nVidia have been better at supporting and developing these kinda technologies - not to mention their multi-monitor support has always been better than ATI's.
 
And again, I'm all for opinions and stuff, but you can't say I'm limiting my self to one graphics card vendor when you've just gave me list of why you do the same yourself.

I'm not the one saying I dislike a video card vendor for some so called "dodgy practices", while I admire your loyalty do you really think it's going to make a blind bit of difference?

I'm not going to limit myself because I'm not happy with the way one vendor goes about it's business, for me it's all about what's best out there at the time,
I really couldn't care less how they run their business so long as the end result gives me plenty of eye candy :D

Like I said in my previous post I'll happily buy ATi again, if or when they can provide a better complete package than Nvidia do at the moment,
I have no allegiances to one side or the other.
 
I will mostly be playing games like MW2 'snip'

Well if its mostly fps's that you will be playing, I'd google for eyefinity + any fps title you want and see if you like how it looks, like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmtOyS4ZaSI&feature=related

I'd prefer the extra peripheral vision eyeinfinity gives you over added depth on a single screen / having to wear plastic glasses / possible headaches.

Now I haven't used 3DVision itself, but I did have a set of EDimensional 3D glasses 4-5 years ago and used to run Far Cry, Planetside, rFactor, etc... in 3d on a 6800 Ultra / 19inch crt monitor. The novelty factor was nice & and the 'depth' effect was neat...for a while. Then the novelty wore off & I sold them.

Plus if you wear glasses, and the 3DVision goggles are anything like the EDimensional ones, they could become uncomfortable to wear after a while of use.
 
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