Brilliant video, can't wait to see how they do, renault engine, redbull gear box. Looka very promising. I hope they do well i like there image and personality. Maybe. I'll start supporting a team again, first time since the mid 90s.
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Brilliant video, can't wait to see how they do, renault engine, redbull gear box. Looka very promising. I hope they do well i like there image and personality. Maybe. I'll start supporting a team again, first time since the mid 90s.
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It's RacecarEngineering that have said that - nothing official from McLaren as yet.
http://twitter.com/RacecarEngineer/status/27228631172
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From what I can recall McLaren will get free Mercedes engines through 2013, then the option of customer engines at least through until 2015.
It wouldn't surprise me if they've started work on their own engine, but keep the option on using either Mercedes/Honda power until their in-house design matches up.
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just pooped up on bbc Chistian Dyer has been given the boot in the Ferrari reshuffle
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Pat Fry is getting the nod in his place. Probably not a bad move, Pat's a very experienced guy (chief engineer at McLaren for something like 18 years I think?).
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It's not about being green, it's about looking like being green.
Same as a Prius that is powered by fossil fuels and a EV that gets it's power from a coal burning powerstation.
If I want to see a 'green' race I watch some cycling, with F1 I want the focus to be on technology and speed, not on fuel consumption.
I've always wondered about electric vehicles and their green credentials.
If power stations use coal to create power, which in turn, is used by the electric vehicle, how can the electric vehicle truly claim to be green?
To be genuinely green, cars must be powered by wind or the Sun. Even then, the materials used to create the solar panels will have some form of carbon foot print.
If power stations use coal to create power, which in turn, is used by the electric vehicle, how can the electric vehicle truly claim to be green?
To be genuinely green, cars must be powered by wind or the Sun. Even then, the materials used to create the solar panels will have some form of carbon foot print.
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The main advantage of a EV is that the efficiency of an electric motor is ~80% when the efficiency of a combustion engine is ~25%
On the other hand the batteries propably need specific metals that have to be mined and transported which also uses energy.
Overall EV's use less power but they are not as green as they seem to be.
Okay. What about the efficiency of the turbines which use coal, to produce electricity?
The true efficiency of an EV will involve the multiplication of 0.8 and the efficiency of the turbines, which produce the electricity from coal.
It all comes down to how you argue the point. If you charge your car exclusively at night on low demand sections you are totally carbon neutral even though you are receiving power from a coal power station because that same power would otherwise be thrown away as it is even more inefficient to shut down the power stations and that start them back up in the morning than leaving them idle and burning off the excess. However if everyone does this then the power demand at low demand will rise. It is effectively accounting with energy rather than money.
The way they have implamented it, itis for show. If they allowed devlopment then it would be useful green technologies for out side the sport.
As for ev load of rubbish, coal is roughly 1/3rd of the national grid. National grid is far less co2 than petrol. Also if you look at ths national grid trend it is progressively getting reener.
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Really? Is that something done by the FIA or the teams themselves?
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Indeed! Have ye any sources I can use to whip moaning hippies in the face with if ever I encounter some?
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