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Really can't wait for some of the night races in HD, all the lights glistening on super polished body works gonna look amazing !
 
Martin Whitmarsh most probably. Tended to have a grudge against anything RB designed / raced :p

I dunno, I'm really not sure Whitmarsh is that petty. McLaren certainly had something to say over the flexible wing issue (come on, that RB6 had flexiwings, we've all got eyes!). But it doesn't seem to me that the post-Ron McLaren would bother arguing over something like the RRA.

/cue the reveal that Whitmarsh is behind the complaint....;)
 
I dunno, I'm really not sure Whitmarsh is that petty. McLaren certainly had something to say over the flexible wing issue (come on, that RB6 had flexiwings, we've all got eyes!). But it doesn't seem to me that the post-Ron McLaren would bother arguing over something like the RRA.

/cue the reveal that Whitmarsh is behind the complaint....;)

Didn't they bring something up about the floor too?

I wouldn't put it past Whitmarsh / McLaren ;)
 
Didn't they bring something up about the floor too?

I wouldn't put it past Whitmarsh / McLaren ;)

Although there were a few team managers that were moaning about RBR, it was mainly Whitmarsh that appeared to have a serious grudge against them. So I wouldn't be surprised either to be honest.

Good news about Legard getting the punt and FOM pushing out HD, just a shame that I don't have a HDTV yet :( Either way, 2011 is shaping up to be a decent season....
 
I cant remember where Im afraid but I believe a number of teams complained that RBR might have overspent in regards to that policy/ruling (or was it mentioned on the BBC F1 review show, which I only watched recently), doubt anything will come of it either way

To be fair the front wing could be SEEN to be practically touching the track in certain places, so RBR DID bend the rules (ie not 85mm above the track at all times) - unfortunately while stationary the car seems to comply adequatly (so while I think RBR broke the spirit of the rule, the FIA should get their heads out of their ******* and change their testing or wording of appropriate rules)

Really glad about F1 being broadcast in HD, already got an HD frieview box so just roll on March!!! :D
 
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Nobody complained about RBR. RBR themselves asked FOTA for exemption from the spending budget, and that was the first anybody knew about it. FOTA have to investigate why.

And as for the flexing wing, the rules are fine, its the testing method that is fubared. The FIA need to apply more accurate pressures to that experienced on track.
 
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RBR themselves asked FOTA for exemption from the spending budget

You'd better tell Chris Horner that:

Red Bull team principal Christian Horner has denied breaking the RRA. "We've worked in accordance with the RRA limits since they were introduced," Horner told BBC Sport. "With tremendous hard work and internal efficiencies, we believe we've absolutely adhered to it.

"Red Bull has committed its budgets wisely and it's obviously surprising that people will feel that way, but it's inevitable, I guess, when you're at the front and winning races."
 
You'd better tell Chris Horner that:


"Former FIA president Max Mosley was the first to lift the lid on the Milton Keynes-based outfit's request for "amnesty for the non-compliance" of the Resource Restriction Agreement (RRA) last year"

http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6649725/Red-Bull-accused-of-blocking-new-RRA

I will never believe a word RB say ever again no matter what they say,they are just a bunch of liars..proven fact.

Also in the news
"Hispania Racing are set to take legal action against former driver Karun Chandhok"

http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6658613/Hispania-set-to-sue-Chandhok
 
http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6649725/Red-Bull-accused-of-blocking-new-RRA

I will never believe a word RB say ever again no matter what they say,they are just a bunch of liars..proven fact.

Hmm. I get the feeling this story is going to rumble on for a while.

If they did break the rule/gentlemens agreement/whatever you want to call it, then I don't see what punishment can be handed out. Fining them is probably out, and they can hardly take the titles off them. So what can the FIA and FOTA do about it?

Also in the news
"Hispania Racing are set to take legal action against former driver Karun Chandhok"

Oh, I do hope that team is gone from F1 before this season is over....bunch of *****.
 
Nobody complained about RBR. RBR themselves asked FOTA for exemption from the spending budget, and that was the first anybody knew about it. FOTA have to investigate why.

And as for the flexing wing, the rules are fine, its the testing method that is fubared. The FIA need to apply more accurate pressures to that experienced on track.
Somewhere in the press it was quoted that "a number of teams complained"

Of course the rules arent fine - if it can be clearly seen mid race that the front wing is practically touching the track, with the current rules nothing can be done - yet stationary the wing supports given weights

The rules currently are contradictory, and no amount of weight (while stationary) will make any difference - without it influencing other teams just as much
 
Hmm. I get the feeling this story is going to rumble on for a while.

If they did break the rule/gentlemens agreement/whatever you want to call it, then I don't see what punishment can be handed out. Fining them is probably out, and they can hardly take the titles off them. So what can the FIA and FOTA do about it?

They can take the WDC\WCC off them if proven that they over spent.


Oh, I do hope that team is gone from F1 before this season is over....bunch of *****.


Agreed

EDIT= Well it looks like nothing can be done to a team that over spent.
 
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Hmm. I get the feeling this story is going to rumble on for a while.

If they did break the rule/gentlemens agreement/whatever you want to call it, then I don't see what punishment can be handed out. Fining them is probably out, and they can hardly take the titles off them. So what can the FIA and FOTA do about it?



Oh, I do hope that team is gone from F1 before this season is over....bunch of *****.

I wish they would go away also. Not fulfilling his contract? wasn't it them who basically gave his drive away to another driver anyway. Really hope they go bust!
 
The FOTA agreement says that a team that overspends one year has to underspend the following year by an equal amount. Not sure what punishment FOTA has for continued non-compliance though - I can't see kicking them out of FOTA will hurt them very much, would it?
 
They can take the WDC\WCC off them if proven that they over spent.

They can't - they are handled by the FIA and the prizegiving has gone ahead so they are world champions.

The resource agreement they are going with is the FOTA not the FIA one, so all FOTA can do is kick them out, reduce what they can spend this year or fine them, or all of the above.
 
They can't - they are handled by the FIA and the prizegiving has gone ahead so they are world champions.

The resource agreement they are going with is the FOTA not the FIA one, so all FOTA can do is kick them out, reduce what they can spend this year or fine them, or all of the above.


I put that right in my post just before you posted :p:D
 
I wish they would go away also. Not fulfilling his contract? wasn't it them who basically gave his drive away to another driver anyway. Really hope they go bust!

Reading between the lines, it would appear that:
Chandhok promised to bring in £xxx of sponsorship money to the team.
This money never materialised (or not all of it).
HRT responded by suspending Chandhok (until he came up with the funds).
This money still didn't arrive and so Chandhok never drove for HRT again.
HRT didn't want to attract negative publicity so simply told the media that Chanhok's "benching" was merely as a result of the driver rotation policy.
Obviously, money is tight at HRT, so they are looking to gain some form of compensation.

HRT would argue that they are a new team who NEED a driver who brings money to the team. If the driver fails to bring this money in, in effect, he has reneged on the agreement. HRT would further argue that had Chandhok been honest and told them that there was no money, they could've hired another driver who would've brought money in to the team. That money would've been used to develop the car, which would've brought in more points, attracted better sponsors, which in turn, would've helped HRT stay afloat.

There are 2 sides to every story and don't assume that Chandhok is not at fault. F1 is all about money and if it means that the team goes bust (possibly as a result of Chandhok), HRT would have every right to be aggrieved.

Chandhok would've been thinking that if he can show other teams that he is a good driver, even if he gets fired by HRT, he will have done enough to earn a drive with another team for 2011. This was always going to be a risk but it's easy to see why he took this risk.

Of course, this has A LOT of assumptions. It will be interesting to see what happens, if and when this goes to court. HRT could well win some form of settlement.
 
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