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F1 2013 Testing: Week 1 Jerez
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I'm hoping we don't get another stoppage at the end of the day so the team can all try some low fuel runs. From Ted's notebook Massa didn't seem to think his 1:17 yesterday was very special, so I would like to see if others can get anywhere near it?
Autosport picked up on an interesting, all be it possibly completely irrelevant point earlier. As Pedro is not a race driver he is down as number 32 on the timing system. However, when Bianchi drives the Force India, he is down as the other race seat, number 15, i.e. NOT a test driver number...
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What number is Di Resta, who's sharing Bianchis car?
Di Resta is 14. The Force India numbers are 14 and 15, and 'usually' only race drivers use the teams numbers. Test drivers get other numbers.
It could just be that 15 is an FI number that isn't assigned because they have no driver, so Bianchi gets that. If Massa is number 4 they can't give Pedro number 3 as that is already Alonso's number.
Or... it could mean he's in the timing system as the second race driver...
It could just be that 15 is an FI number that isn't assigned because they have no driver, so Bianchi gets that. If Massa is number 4 they can't give Pedro number 3 as that is already Alonso's number.
Or... it could mean he's in the timing system as the second race driver...
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What number was Rossiter yesterday?
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Yeah I tried to look through yesterdays pics but couldn't see a number either. None of the timing lists I've seen include car numbers.
Sounds like an announcement could be coming soon though. It's a bit silly to leave a driver decision this late.
Or maybe they had already decided but wanted the cash from both drivers to have a days testing.
Sounds like an announcement could be coming soon though. It's a bit silly to leave a driver decision this late.
Or maybe they had already decided but wanted the cash from both drivers to have a days testing.
Its only silly if they announce someone new who goes into the start of the season having spent very little time in the car or with the team.
If its just going to be Bianchi anyway, then it doesn't really matter. Hes getting the same exposure to the team and car now as he would if he was confirmed.
TBH, I can't really see it being anyone else now?
If its just going to be Bianchi anyway, then it doesn't really matter. Hes getting the same exposure to the team and car now as he would if he was confirmed.
TBH, I can't really see it being anyone else now?
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This from Lewis made me laugh
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/02/08/hamilton-impressed-red-bull-pace/
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/02/08/hamilton-impressed-red-bull-pace/
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The thing is, it's not a surprise, so why would he be impressed? He's also probably under no illusion that he'd be competing with RBR this year, or frankly, even McLaren. I'd love to see it, but I suspect he's well aware he hasn't really got the car.
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I actually expect Rosberg to outperform Lewis this year. He's a much more mature driver than he was at Williams (obviously), and he has intelligence and good speed.
When the Merc was good, both Rosberg and Schumacher performed well. When it was poor, both were poor. I think that the poor Mercs over the last few years has masked Rosbergs true speed.
When the Merc was good, both Rosberg and Schumacher performed well. When it was poor, both were poor. I think that the poor Mercs over the last few years has masked Rosbergs true speed.
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Schumi outperformed Rossberg multiple times, points tell a daft story that has nothing to do with real life. Outside of two pretty bad mistakes by Schumi, in race he was for me massively better than Rossberg in the past 18 months or so, Rossberg only bettering Schumi in racing ability when Schumi was newly back in F1, needing time to get to grips with new car styles, rules, devices and a car alien to him.
Hamilton will have some of that, no fitness issues, style of racing, comfortable with the drivers around him, knowing who will likely do what, who to avoid, who to push out the way, but being completely used to the feel/setup of a car and even the controls. Getting the very best lap out of the car means multiple setting changes throughout a lap, different brake/kers/engine settings for different corners, and honestly just being absolutely thousands of miles in , races in used to where every option is without thinking will take time.
I really think Hamilton will simply be better from the get go, but will improve a further over time as he gets more used to the car. Depends how good or bad the car is though, Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso would have just as hard a time getting to grips with a Caterham and all the missing downforce, as one of those guys driving a top car and getting used to pushing it around corners faster. IE if the car sucks way worse than the last years Mclaren, Rossberg might be more used to driving a worse car... but even then I think Hamilton will handle it. Hamilton and Alonso are pretty much the kings of taking a car and putting it on the limit and controlling it when it gets just out of control.
Forget which race, one of the last few last year, everyone was having trouble, probably the new track, starting slow and getting faster, and both Hamilton and Alonso came out, outlap and bam, awesome lap straight off while everyone else struggled to find the limit around all the corners.
Hamilton will have some of that, no fitness issues, style of racing, comfortable with the drivers around him, knowing who will likely do what, who to avoid, who to push out the way, but being completely used to the feel/setup of a car and even the controls. Getting the very best lap out of the car means multiple setting changes throughout a lap, different brake/kers/engine settings for different corners, and honestly just being absolutely thousands of miles in , races in used to where every option is without thinking will take time.
I really think Hamilton will simply be better from the get go, but will improve a further over time as he gets more used to the car. Depends how good or bad the car is though, Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso would have just as hard a time getting to grips with a Caterham and all the missing downforce, as one of those guys driving a top car and getting used to pushing it around corners faster. IE if the car sucks way worse than the last years Mclaren, Rossberg might be more used to driving a worse car... but even then I think Hamilton will handle it. Hamilton and Alonso are pretty much the kings of taking a car and putting it on the limit and controlling it when it gets just out of control.
Forget which race, one of the last few last year, everyone was having trouble, probably the new track, starting slow and getting faster, and both Hamilton and Alonso came out, outlap and bam, awesome lap straight off while everyone else struggled to find the limit around all the corners.
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This wasn't Georgie, some random from SSN. I agree though, they should replace Georgie with Hayley McQueen
Not having a clue who she was, I googled. Your style... I like it
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Very much doubt this. Hamilton will have to get used to a new car and setup, but presumably steering wheel stuff he'll be able to learn in a sim. Still think he'll outdo Rosberg, although may have a few more offs, due to alienation to grip and car.
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