F1 good for Pirelli???

dannyjo22

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Another weekend another bunch of crtitism from drivers and teams on the tyres. I personally think Pirelli have been given the poison chalice. Everyone wanted more tyre wear due to it working once at Canada.

I've heard lots of general comment from very casual F1 watchers on how **** Pirellis are.

This can not be good for the company and Pirelli are continually having to respond with how they are just building tyres that F1 wanted.

If I was in charge of Pirelli in f1 I'd want out tbh or atleast a tyre war again.

Would you want to see another tyre war?
 
I'd like to see some competition between tyre manufacturers, as Pirelli have said they have made a tyre that they were asked to produce. I would prefer a tyre that was excellent for 5 or so laps and then slowly went off which would give teams the choice of when they changed them and not the tyre they have now which is great one lap and then undrivable the next
 
Yes, they have a tricky job, but I think they're met the demands perfectly. Not sure what else there is to it. It's changed the dynamic of the racing, keeps everyone guessing right until the end. No more 1 stopping and the race being as good as over halfway through.

That said, we had a fantastic season last year without high wear rate tyres. Give it time, we're only 2 races in. Canada should be interesting!
 
Guess I called it again....

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You'd have thought it'd make it a lot easier for other tyre manufacturers to write their ad copy. Next Bridgestone advert - "Hey, look at Pirelli....those shmucks can't make a tyre last longer than 3 laps, last time we were in F1 even the soft compound tyre could do the best part of a race distance. Don't buy Pirellis, buy our tyres instead!" :)
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A tyre war improves show when the different tyres have different strengths without one dominating all season long. If you have a situation like 2005 (where one tyre is so far ahead of the other that anyone on the weaker tyre doesn't even stand a chance without something extraordinary happening) then it all falls apart.
 
I don't think I want another tyre war, i like the fact that there is an element of strategy around the tyres, and that they are a level playing field. I do think it is making the racing more exciting, and opening up the strategies available to drivers/teams.
 
my only concern isnt the rate they wear, but they way they do, it was a sea of rubber offline at the weekend, looked like a massive gamble into t1 offline over what looked more like black gravel than a tarmac circuit
 
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my only concern isnt the rate they wear, but they way they do, it was a sea of rubber offline at the weekend, looked like a massive gamble into t1 offline over what looked more like black gravel than a tarmac circuit
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That also caught my eye, it was horrible.

But maybe it was this bad in the past when there were two manufacturers having a tyre war producing very soft tyres?
 
I don't see what the problem is, Pirelli was given a task by the FIA and they for filled the objective. Personaly there is no problem, Iv seen more action this year so far than the decade just passed, lots of action on track, and what I realy like is the drivers having a 2nd think about going of line to overtake. Basicly Pirelli have done an amazing Job, people just need to look at it in a less serious manner then they will understand that this is going to be epic!
 
JRS said:
Guess I called it again....



A tyre war improves show when the different tyres have different strengths without one dominating all season long. If you have a situation like 2005 (where one tyre is so far ahead of the other that anyone on the weaker tyre doesn't even stand a chance without something extraordinary happening) then it all falls apart.
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Yeah that's when I didn't want a tyre war, when one team was so far ahead. What about a tyre war where you have Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli and Michelin etc, with the teams being able to choose race by race who they want to use?

After all Goodyear and Bridgestone were not happy that it was zero competition.
 
Kerming said:
I don't see what the problem is, Pirelli was given a task by the FIA and they for filled the objective. Personaly there is no problem, Iv seen more action this year so far than the decade just passed, lots of action on track, and what I realy like is the drivers having a 2nd think about going of line to overtake. Basicly Pirelli have done an amazing Job, people just need to look at it in a less serious manner then they will understand that this is going to be epic!
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I agree to an extent, I'm looking at it from the manufacturers point of view with the driver critising the tyres at any opportunity. That's not very good advertising for them and they keep having to defend their tyre with the remit they were given to make the tyres.

I feel sorry for them.
 
Kerming said:
I don't see what the problem is, Pirelli was given a task by the FIA and they for filled the objective.
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The problem comes with more casual watchers who just see tyres that can't last more than 10 laps and immediately assume Bridgestone = Good, Pirelli = Bad.

It can't be doing their reputation much good amongst the general public who will be completely unaware they were deliberately asked to do this.


dannyjo22 said:
What about a tyre war where you have Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli and Michelin etc, with the teams being able to choose race by race who they want to use?
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Great for spectators but imagine the epic amounts of waste because they'd be bringing enough tyres to cope with possible demand but only a quarter of the tyres brought along would get used. Huge wastage that just couldn't be defended in such a 'green' age.
 
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Very much doubt it'll make a big difference commercially.

Every time I go to the tyre fitters it's full of people asking for the cheapest tyres in their size, or at best a recommendation. Then some ask for the same tyres again or people like me have decided long before they've walked in and ordered over the phone. Pirelli are a premium brand so their target market is likely to be car enthusiasts who have some knowledge on tyres.

If anything Pirelli can be proud of their achievements so far, they've produced tyres exactly to the specification asked from the word go.
 
These kind of people are the ones which don't understand tyres or that the F1 tyres are completely different to the road tyres, are the kind of people which buy linglong anyway.
 
Shimmy said:
Very much doubt it'll make a big difference commercially.
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This, because of...

Shimmy said:
Every time I go to the tyre fitters it's full of people asking for the cheapest tyres in their size
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... and the fact that people here are underestimating the power of simply having the name associated with "the world's premier motor racing event" [quotation marks to avoid the ensuing off-topic debate].
 
Pirelli im guessing didnt expect all the negative press from the drivers (the sound like someone tasted their cake and spat it out in their faces every time a driver mentions tyres).

They are really good for F1 as they can listen to what the sport needs (opposed to what it wants), its just a shame most the teams are being really rude about it.

Wish track designers were like this with things like the bumps round Albert Part, I felt the race a few weeks ago missed out on that bumpy breaking zone that has caused so many accidents in the past and now has gone. :(
 
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