F1 Jake plugging the ipad?!

Emails, contacts, calendar, alarms, bookmarks, notes and also the ability to ping it when its disappeared I find mighty useful :p

I don't have to interfere at all, syncs on change, set and forget is the way forward TBH. If your solution is 'neat', Apple's solution is far 'neater'

It is if you use other apple products, by a single click, but I'm not willing to pay a premium for that and lose so much functionality elsewhere with my setup, simply not worth it.
 
Apple envy = a dangerous thing. It's funny how no-one complains about any other device, but when one appears with an Apple logo, its instant FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU. It's a damn good device for a lot of situations as many new owners are now finding out. Big deal.

Most people just can't accept that they make quality products until one hits them in the face.
 
I used a BlackBerry for a while and hated it. I've been using an iPhone ever since and find it a hell of a lot better.

The thing is I don't jump into threads about BlackBerry spouting the same crap that people seem to spout in any thread featuring Apple.

As I said in my previous post it is tiresome and yes that goes for both sides.

There are plenty of iPhone users that do that too.

Unfortunately Apple seem to be a love or hate company, most either go into a thread and spout Apple propaganda or go into a thread and essentially say "Apple are rubbish, I hate Apple"...

I've come to the conclusion (after reading on another forum and a couple of Engadget reports** about something *god forbid* similar to an iPad) that mention of Apple should just be banned from the internet... It would stop so many flame threads... I did first think Apple and MS should be banned but then realised anything that was similar to anything Apple made would also have to be banned, easier to just ban Apple. :(

I don't know why but, for example, the mobile forum is fine, Android and Winmo and BB generally live happily together, then any mention of Apple and all hell breaks loose... Fanboys on both sides sprouting nonsense... Same now with anything to do with tablets or slates. They used to be such a nice thing to discuss, then the iPad came along and you suddenly had Apple fanboys jumping in and stating "they're all carp! They're not an iPad! Look, it has a rubbish full OS, it doesn't integrate with iTunes! It looks horrible..!" and then the replies trying to quell the nonsence and then the replies from the "I HATE APPLE" brigade...

So the only option is to ban the discussion of anything to do with Apple from anywhere but tiny sections of the internet... :p

**The articles were about other slates, specifically about the newly announced eee pad or whatever it's called, as well as a couple more about Android slates. The comments were nice and friendly, the usual discussion on what it looks like and specs, then about 10 comments in you get the "It's rubbish" with a load of random rubbish spouted after showing the person had missed the point of the product, another comment further down by the same person in a similar vein and in one of the comments it comes out that they have an iPad or want one to go with their macbook/iPhone or iMac...:rolleyes:
 
That's just good marketing for you, what apple do best to be fair. They have to sell them, and that's exactly what they do, very well. Who'd have thought putting an 'i' in front of the word phone would have been such a great marketing ploy! It seems stupid, it probably is at face value, but you can't doubt they still sell a shedload of products. If they marketed them like other similar products on the market, I can assure you they would not be anywhere near as popular.

It's an almost sad fact that you could give Apple the original tablet PCs to market now and they would have sold 2 million of them in the first two months...

It's always interesting to note in these threads the people that are "defending" iPads and interested in getting them, most spend their time in the Apples sub forums, and there in lies one of the secrets to Apples success (and the success of a lot of their products). They are not necessarily better but they have a following of loyal gadget boys that will lap up almost anything they produce, especially if it will replace something they already have. It's also why i'm less interested in the number of iPads sold but to who they are sold to? Are they selling to a broad range of the population (in which case sales will stay the same/increase) or are they mostly selling to the Apple fanatics, in which case after the initial launch the sales figures may drop dramatically.
 
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It is if you use other apple products, by a single click, but I'm not willing to pay a premium for that and lose so much functionality elsewhere with my setup, simply not worth it.

Functionality such as?

And its not a single click is it? You have to spend time every day doing it, I don't. Ok its a few seconds maybe but over the course of a year? How long did it take you to setup? I can tell you now it was longer than the 20 seconds putting in my username and password 3 times!
 
Hmm, do you think the iPod Touch is revolutionary too?

Yes certainly I do, I just think that the iPad because of it's size makes digesting media a lot more ergonomic, I think the iPhone is great as a pocket sized equivalent but less practical for comfortably reading books, videos, surfing the net etc, take 'Jake' for example, he could have used an iPhone but he didn't, he kept to his old school notepad, it wasn't until the iPad came out that he felt that is was ergonomic enough to suit his needs.
 
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And you think plastic would radiate heat better?

I can't see it overheating in the first place TBH (unless it is broken). You don't see people wondering around playing "hot potato" with iPhones (or other smartphones) and the internals are almost identical. If anything they should be cooler due to the extra volume.

*Although maybe the screen radiates a lot of heat?
 
Hmm, do you think the iPod Touch is revolutionary too?

And the Archos tablets that were around around 3 years before the Touch... Which in fact are closer to the iPad than the Touch as they were bigger.

Or the more bulky full OS versions that have been around for 10 years or more?:p

Only issue with all those is they didn't get the marketing the iPad has got (and also going to be an issue for the new range of slates already released and soon to be released, just think to yourself, did you know about all the slates/tablets showcased at CES almost a month before the iPad was announced? There was nothing in the mainstream news about them whereas the iPad launch was on the national news...).
 
Functionality such as?

And its not a single click is it? You have to spend time every day doing it, I don't. Ok its a few seconds maybe but over the course of a year? How long did it take you to setup? I can tell you now it was longer than the 20 seconds putting in my username and password 3 times!

Where to start! I could never swap my main PC for an imac! I don't want to get into that debate here so I won't bother, but I'll say I probably spend an extra 2 minutes or so syncing data (only do it once a week, my demands are less than yours) than I would otherwise. It's not a big deal for me, and is the much better alternative.

I'm not refusing to go into the PC/mac debate here because I have no arguments, I have a whole host of reasons why I have a PC instead, like many, more that it's way too OT for this discussion right now.
 
Where to start! I could never swap my main PC for an imac! I don't want to get into that debate here so I won't bother, but I'll say I probably spend an extra 2 minutes or so syncing data (only do it once a week, my demands are less than yours) than I would otherwise. It's not a big deal for me, and is the much better alternative.

I'm not refusing to go into the PC/mac debate here because I have no arguments, I have a whole host of reasons why I have a PC instead, like many, more that it's way too OT for this discussion right now.

Fair call.

Personally in my experience only very specific software (CAD/CFD) and games have required windows and games are the lowest priority for me!
 
Tell you what, online debate around any tech/gaming topic was more bearable to read before the term fanboy / fanboi(really?) spread like wildfire.
 
It's an almost sad fact that you could give Apple the original tablet PCs to market now and they would have sold 2 million of them in the first two months...

It's always interesting to note in these threads the people that are "defending" iPads and interested in getting them, most spend their time in the Apples sub forums, and there in lies one of the secrets to Apples success (and the success of a lot of their products). They are not necessarily better but they have a following of loyal gadget boys that will lap up almost anything they produce, especially if it will replace something they already have. It's also why i'm less interested in the number of iPads sold but to who they are sold to? Are they selling to a broad range of the population (in which case sales will stay the same/increase) or are they mostly selling to the Apple fanatics, in which case after the initial launch the sales figures may drop dramatically.

A very interesting and relevant point. That sort of information would be interesting to know, I do think that Apple have a very loyal following, so yeah, the target audience must be imac/macbook users or iphone users who thought it wasn't big enough - OK just winding you up with that one. Still, I think you're right, there are few 'converts' compared to apple selling to their existing customer base, still I'd be interested to know too how for how many people the ipad would be their first apple bit of kit.
 
A very interesting and relevant point. That sort of information would be interesting to know, I do think that Apple have a very loyal following, so yeah, the target audience must be imac/macbook users or iphone users who thought it wasn't big enough - OK just winding you up with that one. Still, I think you're right, there are few 'converts' compared to apple selling to their existing customer base, still I'd be interested to know too how for how many people the ipad would be their first apple bit of kit.

I saw a affluent girl in her twenties wearing D&G sunglasses, high heels in the apple store buying one.

In the queue there was a businessman.

There was a woman with her kid buying one.

Plus a fair share of fan boys
 
It's always interesting to note in these threads the people that are "defending" iPads and interested in getting them, most spend their time in the Apples sub forums, and there in lies one of the secrets to Apples success (and the success of a lot of their products). They are not necessarily better but they have a following of loyal gadget boys that will lap up almost anything they produce, especially if it will replace something they already have. It's also why i'm less interested in the number of iPads sold but to who they are sold to? Are they selling to a broad range of the population (in which case sales will stay the same/increase) or are they mostly selling to the Apple fanatics, in which case after the initial launch the sales figures may drop dramatically.

Agreed, the hardcore of the fanboys realy do seem to go out and buy whatever apple is peddling at the time, and they rarely if ever criticise it in any way. In their eyes apple can do no wrong. I find windows users much more vocal in what they like and hate about windows or microsoft in general.
 
I believe there is a distinct difference between apple kit and apple the corporate entity.

It is possible to like some of the former without being blinded to the strategy and tactics of the latter.

P
 
A very interesting and relevant point. That sort of information would be interesting to know, I do think that Apple have a very loyal following, so yeah, the target audience must be imac/macbook users or iphone users who thought it wasn't big enough - OK just winding you up with that one. Still, I think you're right, there are few 'converts' compared to apple selling to their existing customer base, still I'd be interested to know too how for how many people the ipad would be their first apple bit of kit.

Not that such a statistic is really viable to calculate but I reckon a HUGE proportion of iPad buyers already own at least one other Apple product. I doubt this product has significantly breached into the wider public who aren't already captivated by the Apple charm. I can't see this being the introduction to Apple for many people at all.
 
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